Secret Jardin DR120 Flower + DR120W Veg

bajafox

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nice job on the budder, are you gonna make brownies soon?

i used a half ounce of bud in 2 sticks of butter and made 1 box of brownies with it and man it fucked me up, it just put me to sleep for a day. i only cooked mine for about an hour, if you cook it long the butter starts to burn off, if you want to cook it that long i suggest using cooking oil instead of butter
I think we're going to try making cookies with this batch. I wish I had enough bud to use instead of trimmings but I did throw a few premature buds in there from various plants so only time will tell :)

Dude your plants are vegged for NINE(!) weeks and are still that small? Is that deliberate? I veg mine for about 30 days, at that point they're about as big as your plants when you harvest them. They should get to the size you start to flower in less than 30 days and you should get waaay more than the weieghts that you're getting at the moment. I'd look at improving your vegging set up mate, I think you're wasting loads of time at the moment.
Yes, it's becoming very clear to me I am not getting close to the results I should be getting as far as yield goes. This last harvest got beat up by bugs, the one before that got beat up by heat, until now my very first plant has been my best yielder. I am starting the no pest strip treatment this weekend and will be switching my lights to come on at night possibly.

Looks like I might even have to chop my Sharksbreath #2, Pineapple Express #2 and Jack Herer #4 early due to bugs again. These were all flowered in 3 gallon smart pots, everything up until now had been in 2 gallon pots or smaller...

Thanks for looking and I'm open to any suggestions or advice :weed:
 

mcpurple

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Dude your plants are vegged for NINE(!) weeks and are still that small? Is that deliberate? I veg mine for about 30 days, at that point they're about as big as your plants when you harvest them. They should get to the size you start to flower in less than 30 days and you should get waaay more than the weieghts that you're getting at the moment. I'd look at improving your vegging set up mate, I think you're wasting loads of time at the moment.
i was gonna say something about the same as this, i just didn't cuz i didn't want to sound a bit rude or discouraging. but ya under a 600 i think 4 ounces a harvest should be the least you get if you got every thing down and have no probs.

and im sure the cookies will turn out good and they will be kicking your ass in no time
 

bajafox

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I'm definitely missing something but until I get rid of these bugs I won't know for sure what needs to be fixed.

Got some good news and bad news yesterday. The good news is I have a job interview next week, first one in over 7 years. The bad news is I have to quit medicating for a while so I can pass the drug test if I get hired.

Last night was terrible, couldn't sleep for shit....
 

Silent Running

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@evilsheep - I'm sure once Baja gets everything dialed in and under control (bugs/heat) that his yields will start improving. Rather than offer nothing but negative feedback, why not offer some constructive suggestions? It could be something as simple as light height or airflow. I imagine bugs will vastly effect yield as well. It reads like he is taking steps to fix that and I applaud him for continuing to try and improve.

And maybe I am missing it...but I don't see a grow or anything really started by you except back in 2009 when you had seedlings dying and other problems. Is there somewhere you have posted of the 30 day veg girls you are referencing? Be good to see a comparison for him rather than just a "damn mine get way bigger in shorter time".


Edited to add:

Weren't those vegged under 200w cfl also? Veg'ing under 600w mh (or hps) would be vastly different.
 

bajafox

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Thanks SR and no worries.

Yes, they were all vegged under 200w+ of cfl, one 200w cfl and one 26w bulb, that is only for pots vegging in my 2 gallon pots. All the others seedlings, teens and clones are under less lighting.

My Pineapple Express #2, Sharksbreath #2 and Jack Herer #4 were well on their way to being some big girls and possibly yielding up to 3 ounces each (right now I'm aiming for an ounce per gallon) until they got hit by bugs. They were doing just fine up until last week when they finally got to them and I noticed the growth start to slow down dramatically, especially on SB#2 and PE#2, the last week of those 2 compared to the last time I grew them is night and day. I still expect to get about an ounce per, maybe more but the bugs are definitely taking their toll right now and until I do the No Pest strip I'm sure the rest of my plants will take a hit.

If I land the job I'm interviewing for next week there is a huge possibility I will scale back down to only flowering in my DR120W and completely shutting down my DR120. Depending on the salary, if it's anywhere near my old one, I will have no need to grow "commercially" anymore, it will all be for my wife, me and friends. :leaf:
 

mcpurple

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I'm definitely missing something but until I get rid of these bugs I won't know for sure what needs to be fixed.

Got some good news and bad news yesterday. The good news is I have a job interview next week, first one in over 7 years. The bad news is I have to quit medicating for a while so I can pass the drug test if I get hired.

Last night was terrible, couldn't sleep for shit....
hey your in the same boat as me, i had to quit again a few days ago for a forestry job, tha i have already just need to pass a ua on the 29th. the first night i quit i couldnt fall asleep till 5 am and woke up at 7 to go to the docs to get my Vicodin back now that im not smoking, i need something for pain. after a few days the withdraws get better i have also been getting the sweats real bad

@evilsheep - I'm sure once Baja gets everything dialed in and under control (bugs/heat) that his yields will start improving. Rather than offer nothing but negative feedback, why not offer some constructive suggestions? It could be something as simple as light height or airflow. I imagine bugs will vastly effect yield as well. It reads like he is taking steps to fix that and I applaud him for continuing to try and improve.

And maybe I am missing it...but I don't see a grow or anything really started by you except back in 2009 when you had seedlings dying and other problems. Is there somewhere you have posted of the 30 day veg girls you are referencing? Be good to see a comparison for him rather than just a "damn mine get way bigger in shorter time".


Edited to add:

Weren't those vegged under 200w cfl also? Veg'ing under 600w mh (or hps) would be vastly different.
great response SR, your shit still has quality like i said before baja.
keep up the good growing.
 

bajafox

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Thanks mcpurple, I've always said I was all for quality over quantity. I could have easily purchased or built a multi site aero or hydro set up by now and grown loads of meds but that's not why I grow.

If my yield ever comes up to par with the quality I'm shooting for it will all be worth it. I would much rather go through the worse of the worse in my first year of growing than have it later. I don't mind taking a hit on yield as long as I have good shit to smoke when it's done, for now.

I have 6 girls ready to go into flower any time I choose, all I gotta do is transplant them into 3 or 5 gallon pots and I can start posting pictures of ounces instead of grams, but again, that was never the goal.

BTW, I did not take his post personally, he called it like it is and he (or she) was right. My yield for 9 week flowering under 600w hps is very poor, not even mediocre IMO. That will change soon enough
 

bekindbud

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Your life and well being is always more important then smoking weed. I wish you the best cuz you deserve the best so work hard at not smoking no more. I can be your bud smoking tester of your harvested plants....LOL Good luck bro, I hope you nail the job down!!!!

Peace

BKB
 

bekindbud

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@evilsheep - I'm sure once Baja gets everything dialed in and under control (bugs/heat) that his yields will start improving. Rather than offer nothing but negative feedback, why not offer some constructive suggestions? It could be something as simple as light height or airflow. I imagine bugs will vastly effect yield as well. It reads like he is taking steps to fix that and I applaud him for continuing to try and improve.

And maybe I am missing it...but I don't see a grow or anything really started by you except back in 2009 when you had seedlings dying and other problems. Is there somewhere you have posted of the 30 day veg girls you are referencing? Be good to see a comparison for him rather than just a "damn mine get way bigger in shorter time".


Edited to add:

Weren't those vegged under 200w cfl also? Veg'ing under 600w mh (or hps) would be vastly different.
+REP Silent......You should help them before you smash them!!!! Very nicely put Silent!!!
 

billcollector99

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No kidding, yield isnt everything, and I am sure every one has gone through a rough patch at one point or another. I can attest to the quality of Baja's herb, as almost every strain I have tried has been good herb IMO.
 

bajafox

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Your life and well being is always more important then smoking weed. I wish you the best cuz you deserve the best so work hard at not smoking no more. I can be your bud smoking tester of your harvested plants....LOL Good luck bro, I hope you nail the job down!!!!

Peace

BKB
Thanks BKB, you are more than welcome to smoke my meds any time man. I can say one thing for sure, without my meds, my stomach hurts all day and I lose my appetite. Not only that, I can't do house chores without being high and I didn't do a damn thing today except the laundry. It's only been a day and I think about smoking a bowl every minute of it, especially at 2:30am last night when I couldn't get any sleep.

There are 3 girls coming down soon, a Jack and a PE so get ready for some tasting because you have both of those :D (both of these are the parents)

No kidding, yield isnt everything, and I am sure every one has gone through a rough patch at one point or another. I can attest to the quality of Baja's herb, as almost every strain I have tried has been good herb IMO.
Thanks BC, it seems that all of my recent rough patches come towards the end of flowering. Once I get this tent dialed in (and get rid of the bugs) we'll start seeing ounces per plant, the goal before I temporarily retire will be to pull a pound. The good news is since I won't be able to smoke for a few weeks I'll have all of my personal stash curing until then :weed:
 

mcpurple

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Thanks BKB, you are more than welcome to smoke my meds any time man. I can say one thing for sure, without my meds, my stomach hurts all day and I lose my appetite. Not only that, I can't do house chores without being high and I didn't do a damn thing today except the laundry. It's only been a day and I think about smoking a bowl every minute of it, especially at 2:30am last night when I couldn't get any sleep.

There are 3 girls coming down soon, a Jack and a PE so get ready for some tasting because you have both of those :D (both of these are the parents)

hanks BC, it seems that all of my recent rough patches come towards the end of flowering. Once I get this tent dialed in (and get rid of the bugs) we'll start seeing ounces per plant, the goal before I temporarily retire will be to pull a pound. The good news is since I won't be able to smoke for a few weeks I'll have all of my personal stash curing until then :weed:
man it sounds like me and you are going through the same shit while not smoking, ive been feeling shitty all day and not hungry at all it usally ends for me around the 3-4th day of not smoking, ive also been drinking and taking my Vicodin again since i quit and it helps me not think about it. one thing is different though i try to keep my self as busy as possible when i dont smoke that way i dont think of weed all day.
i know how you feel and what its like man, we will get through it.


and a long cure is never a bad thing, just be sure to check on the jars every week
 

bajafox

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Yea it sucks, all day my stomach has been hurting. The shitty part is I had decided to cut back on drinking (I like to drink a lot of beer) and in the last two days I've bought an 18 and 30 pack. I still have more than half the 30 pack left but I'll probably go through it by Friday night.

I'm curing about 2.5 grams of my Jack that I chopped over a week ago. I ended up unloading about 5 grams to a cousin since I wasn't going to smoke it, gonna use the money to buy beer for the weekend, lol

Gotta look on the brightside though, when I finally do pack a bowl my tolerance would have gone down a ton :leaf:
 

bekindbud

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Thanks BKB, you are more than welcome to smoke my meds any time man. I can say one thing for sure, without my meds, my stomach hurts all day and I lose my appetite. Not only that, I can't do house chores without being high and I didn't do a damn thing today except the laundry. It's only been a day and I think about smoking a bowl every minute of it, especially at 2:30am last night when I couldn't get any sleep.

There are 3 girls coming down soon, a Jack and a PE so get ready for some tasting because you have both of those :D (both of these are the parents)


Well you have seen the Jack Baby I got from you and I will make the PE a monster as well. I already Made It Rain on the PE.

Bro I would really like for you to let me show you how I water-feed my plants. I want you to make it rain on one of your next plants. I will even come over your pad and do it for you and then you can continue to do it with that plant for like 2 weeks and I swear you will start doing it on all your plants. I can come by on Monday, cause I will be busy this weekend. Let me know whats up bro. Hang in there and DONT SMOKE, get that job homey!

Peace

BKB
 

bajafox

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It sucks man, I walked by my grow room after the lights went out and got a wiff of some dank and all I could think of was packing a bowl!! But then I reminded myself of the bigger picture, getting a job is way more important than smoking a bowl....

Monday probably won't work for me... I'll PM you.
 

evilsheep

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Wow everyone except baja was too touchy about what I said. It wasn't meant as a dig at him at all, I've been following bajas grow for ages and have learnt from him and you all too. If anything the guys who wouldn't say anything were getting annoying, like sheep following the flock :p I wouldn't claim to be anything more than a beginner, I don't post much about my grow for security more than anything, I'd be too paranoid to do a journal.

If anything the post was meant as useful advice about where I would start to fix things after the bugs have gone, if it were my grow.
 

bajafox

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Wow everyone except baja was too touchy about what I said. It wasn't meant as a dig at him at all, I've been following bajas grow for ages and have learnt from him and you all too. If anything the guys who wouldn't say anything were getting annoying, like sheep following the flock :p I wouldn't claim to be anything more than a beginner, I don't post much about my grow for security more than anything, I'd be too paranoid to do a journal.

If anything the post was meant as useful advice about where I would start to fix things after the bugs have gone, if it were my grow.
There aren't any hard feelings man, even though I've only met 2 of the 4 people I do consider them all of my friends. I even trust BC with my entire home...lol

Good luck with the interview dude :)
Good luck with the job prospect! Hope things are starting to pick up economy-wise brothers.
Thanks, if this thing goes through I'm considering doing one full cycle of a single strain in my flower room before I start to shut it down and then probably start breeding in my smaller tent. This job interview changes everything and I have a million idea's going through my head...to bad I can't medicate so I can start narrowing them down...lol
 

bajafox

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I decided to start cutting my losses so I can start the No Pest treatment ASAP. Both the Pineapple Express #2 and Jack Herer #4 will stay in there a few more days until I start the treatment. I'm going to pull both out and try to squeeze in all of my plants in the flower room for a complete 24 hour shut down. Now that I have seen the damage these bugs can do with my own eye's I will never again take them lightly...lesson learned.


Anyway, Sharksbreath #2 was only a week away from being done but she doesn't look so bad and her cola's are pretty dense, she will be a pretty good smoke when she's done curing :weed: I really miss smoking this strain, the whole time I was cutting her down reminded me of walking around a farmers market full of fruit, by far the fruitiest strain I've grown so far

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