Secret Jardin DR120 Flower + DR120W Veg

bajafox

bajafox

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All I keep reading is how great they are for vegging but how they really quite aren't up to par vs hps on flowering. My 4x2 tent will become my veg tent in about 2 weeks when I move, I was thinking about running dual 200w cfls or a single 400w mh, cfl's are too weak for that tent and it's going to cost me a shit load for a 400w mh (+ ballast + cool tube + inline fan) so I looked up LED's.

A single panel supposedly is the equivalent of 250w HPS @ $130 (x 3 = $390) That's 135w LED (750w hps "equivalent") for less than $400. It's going to cost me way more to set up and run a 400w mh


EDIT:

Galaxy Ballast $160
400w mh Hortiulx bulb $75
Hydrofarm 6" inline $123
Sealed air cooled hood $140
Ducting, clamps $30
--------- $528
 
nattyhead357

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bajafox said:
All I keep reading is how great they are for vegging but how they really quite aren't up to par vs hps on flowering. My 4x2 tent will become my veg tent in about 2 weeks when I move, I was thinking about running dual 200w cfls or a single 400w mh, cfl's are too weak for that tent and it's going to cost me a shit load for a 400w mh (+ ballast + cool tube + inline fan) so I looked up LED's.

A single panel supposedly is the equivalent of 250w HPS @ $130 (x 3 = $390) That's 135w LED (750w hps "equivalent") for less than $400. It's going to cost me way more to set up and run a 400w mh


EDIT:

Galaxy Ballast $160
400w mh Hortiulx bulb $75
Hydrofarm 6" inline $123
Sealed air cooled hood $140
Ducting, clamps $30
--------- $528
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Plus on a 400W you're lookin at about 23 dollars a month for electric. LED's will be roughly a third of that cost to run... The only thing is if it can pull out the same results...if they can for vegging... then thats a +1 for LED's, -1 on MH (in my book)

I have heard from a guy that uses them over here and he said that they don't do shit for flowering, but Veg is ok.

He also said that if you want a 400W result then get about double that in equivalence for LED's. Meaning that 1-400 W MH = 1-(800W equivalent) LED

of course take this with a grain of salt, as I have never seen this guys grow room and don't know how advanced his growing skills are.
 
bajafox

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I don't trust their numbers either but I don't think it's as bad as half. I've done some reading on LED's on here but not much since I was going to go with MH. You're right though, the last thing I want to do is balloon my electric bill even more.

Right now I'll probably go with 2 GlowLab 45s + my 200w cfl in my veg room. By the time I move I'll only have 6 plants flowering so I won't need to upgrade the new tent soon but I'll probably add a single GlowLab 45 to it when I can afford it.


Since I plan to run the veg room at 18/6 or maybe even 20/4 I'll probably do all of my freebie auto's in there, might as flower with the LED's to see the difference for myself :D
 
bajafox

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That's way pricey for what I was thinking


I could just try a single GlowPanel 45 in my GL60 to test it out, worse comes to worse I can alway just use it when I start my breeding tent :D
 
mcpurple

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dam that singla grow panel is kinda spendy, i would just veg under cfl very cheap and work great. thats just me though. more power to you if you do get the led, ive never really followed a grow with some one who used one
 
bajafox

bajafox

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All I keep reading about LED's is how great they do during veg and then not so great during flower. Vegging is what I'm focusing on right now, if LED's are better than CFL's then I think it's worth the extra few dollars, especially if they run at 28w and cooler.

This is what I currently have in my GL60

http://www.hydrofarm.com/pb_detail.php?itemid=117

The bulb alone is $110 not including the hood I'll need ($80) which will end up costing me more than just picking up a GlowPanel 45 for $130 plus what I'll save on electric bill and run cooler than a CFL (I think)

When I move I will only have one plant ready to flower (SAK) and I will have double the space, if LED's speed up the vegging process and save money in the long run I think it might be worth the investment
 
mcpurple

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i didnt mean for it to sound like i was saying theri better in any way cuz i really dont know witch are better cuz ive never used led. i never had heat probs with my 200 watt cfl, and i found them for a much cheaper price then that. i got mine from northern lights and garden.
im lookin forward to see how the led works out for you when you get it
 
bajafox

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No worries, I didn't take it that way at all :D

I'm gonna give LED's a try, they will be easy to sell if Prop 19 passes and they don't work out, craigslist is the best thing to ever happen for shit you don't need, lol
 
bajafox

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I should probably look on CL and see if I can find any local one's used and try those instead of buying new...


Ended up starting 12/12 on SAK today, it's been vegging for 11 weeks and 4 days and hasn't grown any taller so I threw it in
 
bajafox

bajafox

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They're nice but they only cover a circular area with a 2 foot diameter? Kinda pricey for that area, thanks for the recommendation though, those Illuminator series lights look more like what I'm looking for though. The Flower Accelerator is exactly what I want for my flower room
 
bajafox

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Finally, it looks I'll have some clones ready for soil in a few days.

There is an AG, 2 Jack Herers (JH1), Cole Train, Rocklock and a G13 with visible roots, they just need to get long enough to transfer.

My Cole Train is on day 56 of 12/12 but I'm going to let it go a few more days, it doesn't look anywhere near being done to cut down today
 
bajafox

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Wish I could, I wanna see your harvest. We gotta clean up cause we're having people over for UFC and Guitar Hero Warriors of Rock, lol
 
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