Secret Jardin DR120 Flower + DR120W Veg

bajafox

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I agree, I wish I could test with a different hood and see if my temperatures hold up. My next setup will be a 5' x 5' with dual cool tubes, 600w hps and 400mh for flowering and if I can keep it cool enough I want to add some cfl's between the plants.

I also want to start a SCROG grow with a G13
 

mcpurple

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you could just add a reflector of any sort i just googled cool tube hoods and their seem to be a lot of them to get from cheap to expensive but it might help spread the light more evenly, and i like how you are going to have the HPS and MH in flower, i heard it is good for trich production, ive also read that having just the MH in the last 2 weeks helps to but im not sure on that cuz i have not tested it
 

bajafox

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There is a reflector on the other side of the cool tube, you can't see it from the pics. The tent is so small that with 600w it covers a lot more than it seems when it's fully open.

Here is what I have planned in the next month or so


DR150 Setup.jpg
 

bajafox

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As soon as we sign a lease I'm ordering the tent, I'm gonna use my 600w by itself until I have enough money to order the rest :D
 

bajafox

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I ended up topping the SAK today and put it in the cloner, also transplanted Delilah 3 into it's new pot to veg until Delilah 2 is done :weed:

The SFV OG x Sour D I got from Bill cracked soil and is about an inch and a half long, pics soon :D
 

evilsheep

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Thanks for helping out Baja, sorry it took a while to reply, I was a bit too stoned to take pictures last night. My mate who rolls em really strong came over for a few hours and that was it for the night lol.

I shortened the ducting from the fan to the cool tube and from the cool tube to the outside to help, I have attached photos before and after.

Temps today are actually a bit better they've stayed 82-86F all day.

Do you think my setup looks ok or do I need to change anything? I probably bought the wrong venting kit, it's only a 5" 250CFM RVK fan + Carbon Filter kit, I should have gone for the 6" kit which was 430CFM and would have helped loads :(

I'm thinking about getting a 400w ballast & bulb to put in, do you think that would help the temps much? It's the one you're supposed to use with the 5" kit I think, more cash but my friend will probably buy the 600ww from me in a month or so, when he gets set up again.
 

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bajafox

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Thanks for helping out Baja, sorry it took a while to reply, I was a bit too stoned to take pictures last night. My mate who rolls em really strong came over for a few hours and that was it for the night lol.

I shortened the ducting from the fan to the cool tube and from the cool tube to the outside to help, I have attached photos before and after.

Temps today are actually a bit better they've stayed 82-86F all day.

Do you think my setup looks ok or do I need to change anything? I probably bought the wrong venting kit, it's only a 5" 250CFM RVK fan + Carbon Filter kit, I should have gone for the 6" kit which was 430CFM and would have helped loads :(

I'm thinking about getting a 400w ballast & bulb to put in, do you think that would help the temps much? It's the one you're supposed to use with the 5" kit I think, more cash but my friend will probably buy the 600ww from me in a month or so, when he gets set up again.
Stick to the 600w if you can. For one thing I don't see any oscillating fans, I would add at least 2. Do you have an intake fan? I have one pulling fresh air in and plan to add one to my next setup. I know for a fact the 250cfm fan will not keep that 600w cool enough and it looks like you also need to shorten the length from your filter to your cooltube, the smaller it is the less air your fan has to move. If I ran my exact same setup at 400w instead of 600w the temps don't change much, you will most likely still need to do the upgrades. Sell the 5" and get a 6" with at least 430cfm, add 2 decent fans for air circulation and a fan to pull air in and you should be good to go. I've ran as high as 600w super lumens on my Lumatek + 100w of actual CFL in my tent when it was nice and cool, I can't wait for winter, I plan to add some 65w cfl's to the lower area's of the plants :D

Don't give up on the 600w, it's definitely possible, especially if you live in area's cooler than where I do

Looking good Baja. I thought about running MH and HPS together...but I've been reading more and more about the CMH.
CMH???
 

machnak

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Thanks for helping out Baja, sorry it took a while to reply, I was a bit too stoned to take pictures last night. My mate who rolls em really strong came over for a few hours and that was it for the night lol.

I shortened the ducting from the fan to the cool tube and from the cool tube to the outside to help, I have attached photos before and after.

Temps today are actually a bit better they've stayed 82-86F all day.

Do you think my setup looks ok or do I need to change anything? I probably bought the wrong venting kit, it's only a 5" 250CFM RVK fan + Carbon Filter kit, I should have gone for the 6" kit which was 430CFM and would have helped loads :(

I'm thinking about getting a 400w ballast & bulb to put in, do you think that would help the temps much? It's the one you're supposed to use with the 5" kit I think, more cash but my friend will probably buy the 600ww from me in a month or so, when he gets set up again.

Definitely get an oscillating fan or a few, but you could also open another hole on the bottom of the tent and use it as a passive intake.
 

bajafox

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Here's an update of my flowering tent, it should show pretty much everything I have to do to keep it runnig at decent temperatures. It's around 80 outside today and my tent was running at 91 set to 600w Super Lumens, I lowered it to 400w and is now running at 90. That is why I say just stick with a 600w instead of going down to a 400w, in the end, it won't make much of a difference.

[video=youtube;ohjAA5DAXrM]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ohjAA5DAXrM[/video]


Ceramic metal halide... IMO I would take a look at induction grow lights...
Gonna have to look into it...

Or one of these bad boys
Plasma is the future :D
 

machnak

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I like the JH a lot. :-) Everything is looking really good, nice and healthy. Hey you ever try putting that top oscillating fan on the bottom blowing air up? See if it may help your temps?


Plasma will be my indoor source someday, crossing fingers. :weed:
 

Silent Running

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Ah! I see the almost identical fan/blower to the one I mod'ed in the opening. Looking good Baja. Bet you will love your new setup when you move. +love
 

bajafox

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I lowered it as much as I could, problem is there really isn't much room in there to lower it. The fan is pretty strong too, any direct hit to a plant would be too hard on the leave's and stem, it'll come in handy when I get a bigger tent though :D
 

machnak

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I lowered it as much as I could, problem is there really isn't much room in there to lower it. The fan is pretty strong too, any direct hit to a plant would be too hard on the leave's and stem, it'll come in handy when I get a bigger tent though :D
Very nice then, just had an idea. :-) Maybe pick up some small computer fans and put em on the bottom? I think that would alleviate a little of the heat around the plants.
 

bajafox

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Ah! I see the almost identical fan/blower to the one I mod'ed in the opening. Looking good Baja. Bet you will love your new setup when you move. +love
Thanks SR, I think the only difference is the color of the fan, lol

Very nice then, just had an idea. :-) Maybe pick up some small computer fans and put em on the bottom? I think that would alleviate a little of the heat around the plants.
I'm going to add 4" blowers for intake when I upgrade :weed:
 

evilsheep

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Stick to the 600w if you can. For one thing I don't see any oscillating fans, I would add at least 2. Do you have an intake fan? I have one pulling fresh air in and plan to add one to my next setup. I know for a fact the 250cfm fan will not keep that 600w cool enough and it looks like you also need to shorten the length from your filter to your cooltube, the smaller it is the less air your fan has to move. If I ran my exact same setup at 400w instead of 600w the temps don't change much, you will most likely still need to do the upgrades. Sell the 5" and get a 6" with at least 430cfm, add 2 decent fans for air circulation and a fan to pull air in and you should be good to go. I've ran as high as 600w super lumens on my Lumatek + 100w of actual CFL in my tent when it was nice and cool, I can't wait for winter, I plan to add some 65w cfl's to the lower area's of the plants :D

Don't give up on the 600w, it's definitely possible, especially if you live in area's cooler than where I do



CMH???
You're right mate, I can't really afford to replace the whole ventilation kit at the moment but I'll definitely do it in the next few months. It's going to get cooler here soon, summer has just finished, that should help a bit.

Definitely get an oscillating fan or a few, but you could also open another hole on the bottom of the tent and use it as a passive intake.
Good idea, I'll buy an oscilating fan to put in there this week :)

Thanks very much for your help guys.
 
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