Secret Jardin DR II Pro120...think i got ripped off

firsttimeARE

firsttimeARE

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bertiswho said:
and thats why your stuck with a peice of shit tent that you got ripped off on, you two keep blowing each other and getting screwed over becuase of lack of knowledge, and if you really wanted peoples input on here you would of asked before you bought a tent dumbass instead of asking people "oh no what do i do now, they didnt send me the right tent" you sound like a whiney 12 year old. fuckin moron.
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We aren't the only ones who feel jesus was "hostile" (as Sirlancealot said). So I guess he's in on this blow fest?

I never said anything about you two being gay for eachother so stop that shit. I just said you are biased on our interpretation of his comment because he was helpful with you and nice previously. Maybe you two are from the same "do-it-yourself" generation given your "i'm older and wiser" mentality which is seeping out of your posts.

I'm an idiot for getting something that wasn't in the picture of what I ordered and coming to a forum(a place for help, which given todays example is making me think otherwise) to ask others who owned the tent(not you, or jesus who obviously have a problem with strangers spending their cash on products that they feel aren't worth it) what their tent looks like.

You're so wise( or lucky) to have never received something that wasn't what it claimed to be? Oh of course not, cause you're a genius.

General consensus is you get what you pay for I keep hearing on the forum(so I bought quality products, which obviously I fucked up there also according to you), I didnt just wake up and be like I wanna buy these products, I researched for weeks, including this site. So your time was then to comment. Had I known you were gonna be such a prick about what I paid for I would have PMed you and asked your opinion. But since its already purchased, your comments are moot. So heed my previous advice on blowing a fucking goat
 
bertiswho

bertiswho

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firsttimeARE said:
We aren't the only ones who feel jesus was "hostile" (as Sirlancealot said). So I guess he's in on this blow fest?

I never said anything about you two being gay for eachother so stop that shit. I just said you are biased on our interpretation of his comment because he was helpful with you and nice previously. Maybe you two are from the same "do-it-yourself" generation given your "i'm older and wiser" mentality which is seeping out of your posts.

I'm an idiot for getting something that wasn't in the picture of what I ordered and coming to a forum(a place for help, which given todays example is making me think otherwise) to ask others who owned the tent(not you, or jesus who obviously have a problem with strangers spending their cash on products that they feel aren't worth it) what their tent looks like.

You're so wise( or lucky) to have never received something that wasn't what it claimed to be? Oh of course not, cause you're a genius.

General consensus is you get what you pay for I keep hearing on the forum(so I bought quality products, which obviously I fucked up there also according to you), I didnt just wake up and be like I wanna buy these products, I researched for weeks, including this site. So your time was then to comment. Had I known you were gonna be such a prick about what I paid for I would have PMed you and asked your opinion. But since its already purchased, your comments are moot. So heed my previous advice on blowing a fucking goat
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iam calling you an idiot cuz your on here whining about it, be a man and take care of it yourself.
 
firsttimeARE

firsttimeARE

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bertiswho said:
iam calling you an idiot cuz your on here whining about it, be a man and take care of it yourself.
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Whining is asking others what their tent looks like as I cannot find consistent information?

You're such an insecure piece of shit.

bringing my masculinity into question. Oh you're definitely my father's generation.

Take some metamucil and stfu.

But ill be a "man" and tape up the hole with some electrical tape and then some duct tape. Or should I used the metallic HVAC tape? I'll have to consult someone manlier than I to patch a fucking hole. DIpshit.
 
bertiswho

bertiswho

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firsttimeARE said:
Whining is asking others what their tent looks like as I cannot find consistent information?

You're such an insecure piece of shit.

bringing my masculinity into question. Oh you're definitely my father's generation.

Take some metamucil and stfu.

But ill be a "man" and tape up the hole with some electrical tape and then some duct tape. Or should I used the metallic HVAC tape? I'll have to consult someone manlier than I to patch a fucking hole. DIpshit.
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well if you couldnt find consistent information why did you buy it in the first place, what did you buy the first tent you saw? like i said your an uninformed idiot, and this proves it. get a clue and people wont be hostile towards you.
 
firsttimeARE

firsttimeARE

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bertiswho said:
well if you couldnt find consistent information why did you buy it in the first place, what did you buy the first tent you saw? like i said your an uninformed idiot, and this proves it. get a clue and people wont be hostile towards you.
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Read and you wouldn't have to ask questions I've answered already.

When you bought your chevy 2500 did you know everything about the older models?
 
firsttimeARE

firsttimeARE

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Look I know this is hard for you to understand...

The photo of what I was buying showed an older model.

I received a newer model that looked different.

After seeing unconsistent pictures on their site do I come to the conclusion I got the newer model.

I didn't know before I bought it there were changes because I wasn't on the lookout to find inconsistencies because the picture I saw on the brochure part of their webpage(older model) matched with the picture shown on amazon(also showed older model). Only now that im on the lookout for said inconsistencies do I find on the photo gallery section of their site do I see a picture of the newer model. Which is the one I received.

I've mentioned all this before...Or are you one of those idiots that makes comments on threads that you didn't read entirely?
 
bertiswho

bertiswho

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listen dude, iam done fighting, my intent wasnt to fight with you in the first place, i was just giving an opinion on the subject and that other dude started name calling and i got pissed. so let me appologize so we can both get over this. Now as far as the tents go, it also really matters whether its shipped. right from the manufacturer or some third party warehouse were they dont give a shit what happens to it. like i said too, the secret jardin arent the greatest, go with hydrohut a little more money but definately worth the extra bucks.
 
firsttimeARE

firsttimeARE

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bertiswho said:
listen dude, iam done fighting, my intent wasnt to fight with you in the first place, i was just giving an opinion on the subject and that other dude started name calling and i got pissed. so let me appologize so we can both get over this. Now as far as the tents go, it also really matters whether its shipped. right from the manufacturer or some third party warehouse were they dont give a shit what happens to it. like i said too, the secret jardin arent the greatest, go with hydrohut a little more money but definately worth the extra bucks.
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You sure did a great job at avoiding a fight with your comments...I wasn't rude right off the bat with you, I just said that I wouldn't defend his comments, and I still maintain his comment wasn't helpful, but spiteful.

You were being argumentitive after by questioning what I saw in that my tent was light-proof. YOU were the one trying to prove something, not I.

I wasn't the one acting like a know it all. I joined this forum to learn from know it alls and the experienced.

I never said secret jardin was the best, and I know their are other great tents. I heard the most consistent good advice on the secret jardin so I took it, despite how much you want to tell me I did 0 research. I wish I could show you my internet history.

I bought a phantom ballast, not because lumatek or quantum suck, but because I heard the most consistent good advice on phantom.

I bought ushio bulbs over hortilux, digilux, sunpulse, all because I heard the most consistent good advice.

Not because all the other brands are junk. I just heard bad with the good on the other brands versus mostly good. I'm not the type of person you were assuming I was.

I accept your apology and would like to move on from this, as it was never the intent of me starting this thread.
 
bertiswho

bertiswho

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firsttimeARE said:
You sure did a great job at avoiding a fight with your comments...I wasn't rude right off the bat with you, I just said that I wouldn't defend his comments, and I still maintain his comment wasn't helpful, but spiteful.

You were being argumentitive after by questioning what I saw in that my tent was light-proof. YOU were the one trying to prove something, not I.

I wasn't the one acting like a know it all. I joined this forum to learn from know it alls and the experienced.

I never said secret jardin was the best, and I know their are other great tents. I heard the most consistent good advice on the secret jardin so I took it, despite how much you want to tell me I did 0 research. I wish I could show you my internet history.

I bought a phantom ballast, not because lumatek or quantum suck, but because I heard the most consistent good advice on phantom.

I bought ushio bulbs over hortilux, digilux, sunpulse, all because I heard the most consistent good advice.

Not because all the other brands are junk. I just heard bad with the good on the other brands versus mostly good. I'm not the type of person you were assuming I was.

I accept your apology and would like to move on from this, as it was never the intent of me starting this thread.
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i was talkin about that wbd guy he started with the name calling. anyways i wasnt trying to argue with you about the light proof thing, i was just stating that none of those tents arent 100% light proof. shit my 4.5x4.5x7 hydrohut i paid 350 for isnt light proof, pretty damn close, but its those damn draw strings that i dont like. i wish they could make some kind of rubber band like seal around the holes, but its probably cheaper for them to do it this way.
 
firsttimeARE

firsttimeARE

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bertiswho said:
i was talkin about that wbd guy he started with the name calling. anyways i wasnt trying to argue with you about the light proof thing, i was just stating that none of those tents arent 100% light proof. shit my 4.5x4.5x7 hydrohut i paid 350 for isnt light proof, pretty damn close, but its those damn draw strings that i dont like. i wish they could make some kind of rubber band like seal around the holes, but its probably cheaper for them to do it this way.
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I saw his name calling and I didn't think it was necessary at all.

I can respect that another person can have another idea or opinion or preference for that matter. And if that idea sides with someone else I dont think they're gay for siding. Just as much as I didn't think wbd and I were gay for siding which is why I said we're biased.

I was inside my tent and it was pitch black fully setup aside from that tear, which is like you said probably from the third-party that doesn't give a shit. I know that tear isn't supposed to be there so I can look past that when I say that the tent is lightproof.

I know 100% isn't realistic. It's such a bold statement that no manufacturer likes to make because nothing is perfect or 100% and they're liable if they say otherwise.

A type of neoprene would be good for the inlets instead of draw strings. I like that the tent I got has 2 drawstring tubes on each inlet. Has to be better than one, right. **EDIT** But you'd have to go hard-duct if you had neoprene as the only way it'd work 100% or close to it is if it had to stretch to go over the duct. And that pressure would crush flex-duct.
 
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wbd

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firsttimeARE said:
I saw his name calling and I didn't think it was necessary at all.

I can respect that another person can have another idea or opinion or preference for that matter. And if that idea sides with someone else I dont think they're gay for siding. Just as much as I didn't think wbd and I were gay for siding which is why I said we're biased.

I was inside my tent and it was pitch black fully setup aside from that tear, which is like you said probably from the third-party that doesn't give a shit. I know that tear isn't supposed to be there so I can look past that when I say that the tent is lightproof.

I know 100% isn't realistic. It's such a bold statement that no manufacturer likes to make because nothing is perfect or 100% and they're liable if they say otherwise.

A type of neoprene would be good for the inlets instead of draw strings. I like that the tent I got has 2 drawstring tubes on each inlet. Has to be better than one, right. **EDIT** But you'd have to go hard-duct if you had neoprene as the only way it'd work 100% or close to it is if it had to stretch to go over the duct. And that pressure would crush flex-duct.
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I think he is gay for coming to some dude's rescue on the internet at the expense of disrupting this thread like he did. If it's not homosexuality that compels him, then what?

For the record I never called anyone any names, I only said that firsttimeARE is not a cheap asshole. I stand by that comment, and that bertiswho and his pal are likely fags. :)
 
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Criss8269

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bertiswho said:
all he was saying is that you can make light proof tents from under 100 bucks and they work just as good as the ones you buy. because if youve ever bought a tent, i dont care how light proof they tell you they are, their is still light leaks somewhere. also secret jardins are garbage, get a hydrohut or grow lab if you buy a tent, i have both and they are great.
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actually they dont work "just" as good....... ya you can go get some black poly and some plastic pvc piping or 2by4s and make a tent and buy some of those cheap sticky zippers and cut some holes for vents etc etc but will it really work as well?? now as far as the plant is concerned ya it will work as well but as far as maintance and how easy it is to use then HELL no it wont work as good....the tent comes ready with all vent holes and places to hang your lights and yur fans and EVERYTHING and can be put up in minutes and taken down in minutes...... if you use plastic PVC how are you going to hang shit from that?? If you use 2by4s how you going to disasemble it fast or put if up without banging and hammering and nailing and stapling and glueing??..... People always come on here saying that making a tent is always better but the truth is its NOT always better sometimes it just better to buy the proper shit you need and do it righ and clean without lots of hassle
 
FootClan

FootClan

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Secret Jardin is a good Tent and its plenty light proof enough....... I work at a hydrostore and Hydro hut is NOT better tent, not saying its not a good tent but to tell someone that its better then secret jarden is not really accurate ... Secret jarden. DarkRoom, Growlab, hydro hut, they are all good tents with different things about them that make them good......Me i personally like Growlab i think they make the best tent with the best features..... But as long as its not a SunHut or one of those crappy ebay tents you be fine.;

also for the price those tents run id fuckin send it back if its got a rip in it fuck taping it up ive found that with that type of material on the outside that tape never stick to it anyways ....you would be left taping it from the inside becasue tape will stick to the reflective surface but no to the vynel surface on the outside......dude those tents cost so much send it back whos wants a pricy tent with a rip in it might as well got the cheap ebay tent if you going have a rip in it....
 
firsttimeARE

firsttimeARE

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FootClan said:
Secret Jardin is a good Tent and its plenty light proof enough....... I work at a hydrostore and Hydro hut is NOT better tent, not saying its not a good tent but to tell someone that its better then secret jarden is not really accurate ... Secret jarden. DarkRoom, Growlab, hydro hut, they are all good tents with different things about them that make them good......Me i personally like Growlab i think they make the best tent with the best features..... But as long as its not a SunHut or one of those crappy ebay tents you be fine.;

also for the price those tents run id fuckin send it back if its got a rip in it fuck taping it up ive found that with that type of material on the outside that tape never stick to it anyways ....you would be left taping it from the inside becasue tape will stick to the reflective surface but no to the vynel surface on the outside......dude those tents cost so much send it back whos wants a pricy tent with a rip in it might as well got the cheap ebay tent if you going have a rip in it....
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It was only better because he owned it. We all have our biases. I think if you throw decent money at a tent regardless of name its going to be light proof enough. I just know the cheap ones you're talking about are just that, CHEAP. And making one seems overdrawn and unnecessary for the stress it'll cause.

I totally agree on that rip. The seller has already gotten back to me, of course questioning the box integrity. But atleast its a response.
 
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ganjaplantaa

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Dude that same shit happend to me. I didnt get the bottom insert and there were no corners. I had to get the place i got it from to order them. They took forever to do this and when i finally got my corners they were different from the DRII and I didnt get my insert. I hate my hydro store now. Ive been dealing with them for 2 months now. Trying to get the insert and correct corners. Every time i call they say oh we didnt order yet we will order today. Such a pain in the ass.
 
Fykshun

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I always enjoy your posts, FootClan; informative, straightforward, and logical. I just purchased a DR II pro 120, and I effin' love it. Sure, I have money to burn, but I don't have time to burn - a ready made tent was superb for my lifestyle. My package was complete and without flaws - it has a black floor mat, apparently because people complained about the Mylar bottoms cracking and flaking with long term use and water exposure. All of the other specs match mine as well. I paid full price from a hydro shop - you did not get ripped off. Feel good about your purchase (sorry for the shipping tear issues).
 
FootClan

FootClan

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having reflection on the bottom isnt really what you want....I cant remember where i read this but i read an article discussing reflection on a grow room floor and the end result if i remember correctly was you DONT want it....something about how the leafs are ment to take the light in from the top side surface of the leaf not the underside of it....... Also light decreases expentionaly so by the time it gets to your floor then reflects back up theres so much lost that dosent make much a diff anyways......
 
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