Second Harvest

JohnCee

JohnCee

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Well, I cut her down after 64-65 days of 12/12.. did a hack job at the buds, dipped buds in bath of water + peroxide, hung to dry in the box. I left the box open and put it into what use to be my flowering room, which now will just be empty and dark for the next several days while these dry.

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I have ventilation ( not sure how effective ) in my rooms, but there is no fan currently in the room with the buds. Will my rooms ventilation be sufficient, or should I put a fan in there to push some air around?

Edit: I'm guessing 40g after dry/cure
 
ZaraBeth420

ZaraBeth420

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I've been growing for many years, but I've never heard of dipping buds in water + peroxide at harvest. What is the supposed benefit?

I mean I've read every grow book there is, I thought, and have never heard of this. Maybe I just missed it.
 
rob333

rob333

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JohnCee said:
Well, I cut her down after 64-65 days of 12/12.. did a hack job at the buds, dipped buds in bath of water + peroxide, hung to dry in the box. I left the box open and put it into what use to be my flowering room, which now will just be empty and dark for the next several days while these dry.

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I have ventilation ( not sure how effective ) in my rooms, but there is no fan currently in the room with the buds. Will my rooms ventilation be sufficient, or should I put a fan in there to push some air around?

Edit: I'm guessing 40g after dry/cure
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why would u dip your buds in water and peroxide would of washed half the tichs away and doubled the risk of mold ;)
 
JohnCee

JohnCee

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To be honest after dipping them a lot of hair (human and feline), dust, and other debris were washed away. When I dumped the water it looked gross. I did it with my first harvest as well.. I like to think it adds to a quality standard, lol. I know that trichomes are not water soluble.

The humidity inside of the box with the buds is 52 percent.
 
TJ baba

TJ baba

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JohnCee said:
To be honest after dipping them a lot of hair (human and feline), dust, and other debris were washed away. When I dumped the water it looked gross. I did it with my first harvest as well.. I like to think it adds to a quality standard, lol. I know that trichomes are not water soluble.

The humidity inside of the box with the buds is 52 percent.
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I have some dog and human hair in my grow tent too. Lots of dust visible where intake fan sucks in debris. Is it healthy to smoke buds dipped into water + peroxide? Im assuming it will just evaporate off the bud, but is there any peroxide leftover on the dried bud youre about to smoke? If it really cleans them it's something I'll think about. Because my RH is low so virtually no risk of mold for me.
 
undercovergrow

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one word: shop-vac. :eyesmoke:

additional words: replace your carbon filter's pre-filter often and keep your flower room as clean as possible. congratulations on your completed grow. :cool:
 
JohnCee

JohnCee

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TJ baba said:
I have some dog and human hair in my grow tent too. Lots of dust visible where intake fan sucks in debris. Is it healthy to smoke buds dipped into water + peroxide? Im assuming it will just evaporate off the bud, but is there any peroxide leftover on the dried bud youre about to smoke? If it really cleans them it's something I'll think about. Because my RH is low so virtually no risk of mold for me.
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What I have been doing is mixing 85 percent water and 15 percent peroxide and then cut the stalk off, dip, and lightly run it through the water to break off some of the debris. There's no threat leaving in the water for a minute or two. Afterwards, just give it a small shake once and hang it up. I had some of the best tasting and smoothest bud I've had the last time I did this.
undercovergrow said:
one word: shop-vac. :eyesmoke:

additional words: replace your carbon filter's pre-filter often and keep your flower room as clean as possible. congratulations on your completed grow. :cool:
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I try to keep things clean as possible, but when you have a cat, the damned hair sticks to you and just floats off when it pleases. Thanks for the congratulations though!
 
Blunted 4 lyfe

Blunted 4 lyfe

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I've never heard of dipping buds in water with peroxide before, everything I've read says the opposite.

The rh of buds at time of harvest should be below 40%, anything over 70% is at risk of mold so 100%,imo, is a mold factory plus the unkown side effects of burning peroxide.

After a 4-10 days of drying, 3 weeks of curing in jars at 62% rh you'll be good to go.

B4L
 
JohnCee

JohnCee

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Blunted 4 lyfe said:
I've never heard of dipping buds in water with peroxide before, everything I've read says the opposite.

The rh of buds at time of harvest should be below 40%, anything over 70% is at risk of mold so 100%,imo, is a mold factory plus the unkown side effects of burning peroxide.

After a 4-10 days of drying, 3 weeks of curing in jars at 62% rh you'll be good to go.

B4L
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Well, at the moment my RH is sitting at 38%.. all seems to be going well. I knew that my RH would be low during this time of year so I'm not too worried about mold issues.

There is literally no risk from the peroxide.. it is heavily diluted with water. Since is it widely known that trichomes are not water soluble (otherwise rain would mess up a crop), why would you not take the extra step to rinse, cleanse, and prepare your for bud for future ingestion? In the end, you're just creating a cleaner, smoother, and ultimately a more pure product. Take for example when you go out to eat at a restaurant, you would like to have the peace of mind knowing that your chef has properly rinsed and prepared the greens before plating them for you to consume. Literally, every other crop that you ingest has been rinsed and prepared by somebody at some point.. why would you not do the same for marijuana especially if you are trying to set a "medical" standard?
 
Blunted 4 lyfe

Blunted 4 lyfe

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JohnCee said:
Well, at the moment my RH is sitting at 38%.. all seems to be going well. I knew that my RH would be low during this time of year so I'm not too worried about mold issues.

There is literally no risk from the peroxide.. it is heavily diluted with water. Since is it widely known that trichomes are not water soluble (otherwise rain would mess up a crop), why would you not take the extra step to rinse, cleanse, and prepare your for bud for future ingestion? In the end, you're just creating a cleaner, smoother, and ultimately a more pure product. Take for example when you go out to eat at a restaurant, you would like to have the peace of mind knowing that your chef has properly rinsed and prepared the greens before plating them for you to consume. Literally, every other crop that you ingest has been rinsed and prepared by somebody at some point.. why would you not do the same for marijuana especially if you are trying to set a "medical" standard?
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Hey i'm not knocking it, i just never heard of that before, it does make sense when you step back and analyze it with an open mind.

Hey if it works for you thats great but unless i hear a concencus from others, i'm not read to go down that road yet.

After a 3 month grow 4 weeks of drying and curing, i'm not willing to risk all that labor and good weed on an adventure.


B4L
 
Blunted 4 lyfe

Blunted 4 lyfe

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JohnCee said:
Well, at the moment my RH is sitting at 38%.. all seems to be going well. I knew that my RH would be low during this time of year so I'm not too worried about mold issues.

There is literally no risk from the peroxide.. it is heavily diluted with water. Since is it widely known that trichomes are not water soluble (otherwise rain would mess up a crop), why would you not take the extra step to rinse, cleanse, and prepare your for bud for future ingestion? In the end, you're just creating a cleaner, smoother, and ultimately a more pure product. Take for example when you go out to eat at a restaurant, you would like to have the peace of mind knowing that your chef has properly rinsed and prepared the greens before plating them for you to consume. Literally, every other crop that you ingest has been rinsed and prepared by somebody at some point.. why would you not do the same for marijuana especially if you are trying to set a "medical" standard?[/QUOT
I dont see any major problems with rh being at 40%, many here on this site swear the effects of low rh is minuscule, however mj thrives on high rh especially in seedling stage it helps eith transporation.

B4L
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TJ baba

TJ baba

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Blunted 4 lyfe said:
I've never heard of dipping buds in water with peroxide before, everything I've read says the opposite.

The rh of buds at time of harvest should be below 40%, anything over 70% is at risk of mold so 100%,imo, is a mold factory plus the unkown side effects of burning peroxide.

After a 4-10 days of drying, 3 weeks of curing in jars at 62% rh you'll be good to go.

B4L
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I have a relative humidity of 15-25%, and lots of dust and debris. So this sounds like something I could possibly benefit from. I'm not scared of mold in my environment. I have boveda 62% for my mason jars. And I will follow a diligent burping schedule once they're all in the jars.
 
Blunted 4 lyfe

Blunted 4 lyfe

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TJ baba said:
I have a relative humidity of 15-25%, and lots of dust and debris. So this sounds like something I could possibly benefit from. I'm not scared of mold in my environment. I have boveda 62% for my mason jars. And I will follow a diligent burping schedule once they're all in the jars.
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I hear ya! I'm not totally against it, I too have my boveda paks and mason jars, as a matter of fact if my buds werernt in cure i might try it, I'll risk 1/2 a jar but not a whole plant just yet.

B4L
 
vostok

vostok

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JohnCee said:
Well, I cut her down after 64-65 days of 12/12.. did a hack job at the buds, dipped buds in bath of water + peroxide, hung to dry in the box. I left the box open and put it into what use to be my flowering room, which now will just be empty and dark for the next several days while these dry.
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I have ventilation ( not sure how effective ) in my rooms, but there is no fan currently in the room with the buds. Will my rooms ventilation be sufficient, or should I put a fan in there to push some air around?
Edit: I'm guessing 40g after dry/cure
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The fan is a great idea ...even compulsory and more so after dipping them buds in water

the idea is to be very gentle with those trics hanging on the buds, any damage you loose drug!

this is an excellent time to look into the wet cure, if you have dust and shit in there..?

to my blog: https://www.rollitup.org/Journal/Entry/water-cure.31213/

and dude you ain't no Noob if on your second grow ..

more confidence please ..lol
 
Blunted 4 lyfe

Blunted 4 lyfe

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I always wondered why folks are so adamant about dark periods being absolute when growing mj, but when grown outdoors it is impossible for absolute zero light (stars, moonlight, streetlights, home lights).

B4L
 
Blunted 4 lyfe

Blunted 4 lyfe

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vostok said:
The fan is a great idea ...even compulsory and more so after dipping them buds in water

the idea is to be very gentle with those trics hanging on the buds, any damage you loose drug!

this is an excellent time to look into the wet cure, if you have dust and shit in there..?

to my blog: https://www.rollitup.org/Journal/Entry/water-cure.31213/

and dude you ain't no Noob if on your second grow ..

more confidence please ..lol
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Hey Vostok, ever tried it at room temp (water) I'm curious if warmer water would work as well.

B4L
 
vostok

vostok

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I may have said
"Avoid using cold-est water for fear of losing all them hard earned Trics,
use air temperate tap water about 15C/59F, and change daily
Above all be gentle with your buds for the above reason
I must stress its important to lower the weed into the water
and Not allow the water to pound or bash the weed in any way"

room temp is good, we ain't making hash here so you need to keep them trics attached to the grass

be gentle and respectful to your hard earned endeavors ..lol

the deal is to soak out or leach all them nutes and stuff in the plant fiber

I find 3 days at best, other go longer or shorter ..a matter of taste

good luck
 
vostok

vostok

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Blunted 4 lyfe said:
I always wondered why folks are so adamant about dark periods being absolute when growing mj, but when grown outdoors it is impossible for absolute zero light (stars, moonlight, streetlights, home lights).

B4L
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Light pollution is getting bad, so go the autoflower way..?

over the years I have noticed that outdoor growers,

who germ outdoors too suffer far less herms than

guerrillas who plant out established 6 inch seedlings or clones, weeks later

I can only surmise plants adapt quicker to their locations when planted early

good luck
 
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