Searching for strains with electric/energetic/coffee effects?

thenotsoesoteric

thenotsoesoteric

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The right pheno of jack herer or her crosses. I found a great pheno of critical jack herer by delicious seeds. It was a freebie fro attitude seed bank back in 2011. Didn't clone it and I regretted that decision as soon as I smoked the finished bud. Great berry fruity flavor like the critical + but was the best anti depressant/energetic upper type high. Actually one of the best me and my crew have ever smoked.

Sadly Ive grown about 5 more of those seeds and all the phenos where spicy like jack but more of a racy type stone, nothing like that one. Damn freebies man.
 
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18six50

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I crossed Durban Poison with a nice Cherry Wine pheno and it's offspring were Super clear headed, upper all the way and no crash. That's the clearest I've ever smoked. I'd look for Durban crosses. If you want something that's not even really "stony" find a durban/cbd cross if you want a psychedelic upper find a Durban/Sativa cross or a Durban Northern lights/haze something like that. IDK who has the real "durban". A lot of places have the "two pheno" durban, it's a nice Sativa that's super early, the larger more sativa looking of the two pheno's is the nicer one. These are NOT the same Durban that came out of the 70's or 80's, the stuff back then didn't have two pheno's, it had been worked with enough that it was very stable. I worked various durban lines for a Long time and still love them, even the "two pheno" durbans are uppers. Hazeman's and the Dutch one are both "two pheno". I suspect Hazeman's came from there. Hazeman's was very vigorous and a big producer, not much trimming to do especially on the sativa pheno.
 
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MickeyBlanco

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18six50 said:
I crossed Durban Poison with a nice Cherry Wine pheno and it's offspring were Super clear headed, upper all the way and no crash. That's the clearest I've ever smoked. I'd look for Durban crosses. If you want something that's not even really "stony" find a durban/cbd cross if you want a psychedelic upper find a Durban/Sativa cross or a Durban Northern lights/haze something like that. IDK who has the real "durban". A lot of places have the "two pheno" durban, it's a nice Sativa that's super early, the larger more sativa looking of the two pheno's is the nicer one. These are NOT the same Durban that came out of the 70's or 80's, the stuff back then didn't have two pheno's, it had been worked with enough that it was very stable. I worked various durban lines for a Long time and still love them, even the "two pheno" durbans are uppers. Hazeman's and the Dutch one are both "two pheno". I suspect Hazeman's came from there. Hazeman's was very vigorous and a big producer, not much trimming to do especially on the sativa pheno.
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I grew out hazeman Durban Poison about 6 months ago. The high was like drinking 4 to 5 double expressos at once. Nice, but not very pleasant. I also had a heavy yielder. The rosin that I made from it was top-notch also.
 
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18six50

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MickeyBlanco said:
I grew out hazeman Durban Poison about 6 months ago. The high was like drinking 4 to 5 double expressos at once. Nice, but not very pleasant. I also had a heavy yielder. The rosin that I made from it was top-notch also.
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One of the reasons I like Durban crosses is that Durban itself isn't what I would call euphoric, it's a speedy buzz but lacks the "happy", crosses tame the speed down and add some happy. Makes for a nice working buzz that way. Although I had a few friends who absolutely love the hazeman durban just the way it is. Funny though, most of the people who love straight Durban seem to be my friends who have a lot lower tolerance than I do. They take one hit maybe two and then they are running around like chickens with their heads cut off. I even know one woman who uses it as a diet aid and swears by it. The THCV is anti-munchies and the speed gets her up and active.

Many many moons ago I was lucky enough to work with the "lost" strain of Durban, it was one of the original pheno's brought to Cali by Ed (who my wife's Aunt was friends with) but it would hermie, with even a slight light leak, so he destroyed it but not before a few people got their hands on it. I used that original Hermie cut to accidentally make S1 seeds and believe it or not that was actually the very first time I had ever seen or even heard about "female" seeds. I worked that seed line for a long time for myself and few friends but eventually it just played itself out and lost vigor and potency. I'm not sure if I got a pathogen or if it's just the nature of the beast when working something for that many cycles, eventually they just seem to peter out if you don't constantly inject new genetics, preferably from "regs" into the mix. Still I wonder if anyone actually has the original Ed Rosenthal strain and if it's still potent. I've only got crosses left from that orignal and they are crosses of crosses of crosses of etc. etc. etc. Not sure how much is even left in there anymore.
 
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