sealed 4x4 room 1000w

I am getting ready to set up a couple of sealed rooms with a chiller, co2, scrubber and fan. I want to keep my 4x4 flower room completely sealed with a 1000w and wanted to know if I need more than 1 cooling coil in the room to keep temps and humidity in check. If I will need more than one coil I thought about doing a 2 x 4 room in between flower and veg room and circulate the hoods in there with a cooling coil to keep the hoods cool in the rooms. I have 2 a/c coils I have converted to water and was thinking about buying a 6" coil from hydro innovations. Is this sufficient and what is the most effective setup. Thanks in advance.

I also have 2 9000 btu portable a/c with single exhaust that I was thinking about using for dehumidifiers but would be great if I could use them to cool the sealed rooms some how.

Trial and error is the only way to know for sure. A bunch of goons on the internet can't tell you for sure if your setup will work or not.

I am really looking for some ideas and maybe a few ppl that run a similiar setup to point me in the right direction. I am moving into a new house in a few weeks and I am building out a grow room in the basement and want to seal it. I been running my rooms open circulating through my basement for the last 2 years but their is always a hint of smell the last few weeks of flower. I have a shit load of gear, healthy budget and can build anything but I have a habit of over complicating things and want to keep as simple as possible.

I have a diy 25,000 btu chiller I made out of a commercial ice machine and a intex 10,000gal pool pump with a 35gal rez I put together. The chiller is water cooled and drops my rez 20 degrees in about an hour and is a bit overkill in my opinion. Basically I am building a room within a room so I can expand down the road but right now I just want to run 1000w flower and 600w veg room with co2 contained within a 6 x 14 room. I am going to locate chiller, co2 burner and rez outside of grow rooms and need to be able to cool those 2 rooms together or separately. Been looking at the ice boxes but they are pricey if I need more than one per room.

What are you even asking? I haven't seen one question mark. In the basement you won't need much to cool it because basements are below ground and are generally cooler. Get a dehumidifier and you should be good.

Why are you even commenting if you have no experience running a sealed room lol? Sorry I didnt use question marks.

1. If I want to cool a sealed 4x4 room with 1000w bulb and ballast how many ice boxes or heat exchangers would I need and where should they be placed at to properly cool the room?

2. Is there a way I could use my portable a/c in a sealed room without venting air from the room?

I dont want to drop 1000 bucks on equipment I may not need which is why I am on here asking if anyone has experience with a 4x4 sealed room setup and I was just trying to throw out there what equipment I am working with.

Im not noob trolling the RIU forums because I am bored. I actually am looking for some sound advice on a sealed room because there is not much info out there regarding CGE that applies to the setup I want.

I def needed a ac in my basement this summer. My 8k portable ran non stop

KrAzY80 said:

I dont want to drop 1000 bucks on equipment I may not need which is why I am on here asking if anyone has experience with a 4x4 sealed room setup and I was just trying to throw out there what equipment I am working with.

Im not noob trolling the RIU forums because I am bored. I actually am looking for some sound advice on a sealed room because there is not much info out there regarding CGE that applies to the setup I want.

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Don't wanna drop 1000 but wanna go sealed? Lol. This is a joke. Read up

What are you a republican lol, only captioning half my sentence. If you continue to read it says I dont want to drop the money if I dont need to DICK. Well not the last word lol. Love how the people take the time to criticize but not offer any advice.

I apologize if my posts are unclear and jumbled up a bit. Im not on blogs all day racking up post but I have been a member since 2010 and read info from here almost everyday and offer my advice from time to time as contribution.

All I was wanting to know is what kind of setup I would need as far as ice boxes and heat exchangers for a small sealed room whether it be 1,2,3,4 or maybe if there was some way to use my portables in a sealed environment.
I have a 2 hp chiller, pump, 2 heat exchangers, 30 gal rez, 2000w of hid, 2 sealed hoods, t-stats, 2 portable a/c or dehumidifiers, 18000 btu window unit, carbon filters, shit load of fans, a house, my own business, a wife, 2 years of dwc experience and all I am asking for is some advice on what else I may need and a little direction on how to setup a sealed room.

Here are some pics of my crops if you still question my abilities and intentions.

Maybe I miss read what you where saying. Your going to spend alot to water cool that area. But I think you know that. I don't have exsperiance with water cooling but check this out. https://www.rollitup.org/grow-room-design-setup/511767-water-cooled-grow-rooms.html there is alot of info there. And think it talks about a 4x4 room.

Thanks man, I read that post last night and laid a few questions on him. I think I am going to buy a few ice boxes and go from there. I just wont have much time to fiddle with my room for the first month so I am trying to get all my ducks in row first instead of the fuck it and just do it approach I usually take. The mini split may be the way to go but I will be expanding so I want to keep my options open.

I do have the option of venting but I was concerned about co2 consumption. I picked through your sig a bit and seen you have a sealed room and vent on timers and t-stats which might be the way to go for now while I figure out the whole water cooling concept.

This is very possible, but I don't see how you are going to exhaust your light. Don't even think about keeping the heat from your 1000w in the room, because that is adding wayyyy to much heat and electricity from cooling that heat for no reason. Take ducting, have it exhaust air from outside of your room, through your light, and back outside, so that your room is still sealed. You might already be doing this, I didn't see it in your posts. If you aren't, it will reduce the amount you have to cool drastically.

I really am trying to avoid venting anything but it I did I would have to vent 2 hoods and I dont know how air tight I can make the hood and ducting in the room so I dont carry any smell out with it. My only options would be to vent through furnace and use it to heat the house this winter or vent up through fireplace.

Those Ice boxes say they can remove all of the heat from a 1000w bulb when attached to the hood with a inline fan pulling through it. It would be nice if I could just use 1 ice box on the hood with a big fan on it to maintain the room 80-85 degrees. The flower room is going to be 4x4 with 2 of the walls being concrete which I hope help with heat and the ambient temps outside of room will be around 70 degrees or lower so I really think my cooling needs will be on the low end of the calculator even with the 1000w bulb. I think the chiller with the rez isnt going to consume much more power than 2 window units would if I went that route. The chiller will only run when the water in the rez rises unlike a window unit or a/c staying on all the time.

Is anyone out there running ice boxes and know if 1 of them is capable of cooling a 1000w bulb and maintain a room around 80-85 with concrete walls and low ambient surrounding temps?

I can run as low as water temp as I want for it and drain condensation into a floor drain. Dehumidifier hopefully will only be needed for night cycle and all other heat sources will be outside of room.

You're talking about cooling with a chiller, cooling with a portable, and cooling with window units. Pick one and try it. Get something to measure the watt usage from each and make your decision on CO2 retention and overall efficiency.

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I am going to use the diy chiller. It consumes 800 watts which is the same as my portables and 2 small window units consume. I just emailed hydro innovations to see if 1 6" ice box is capable cooling my light and room at 80-85 degrees so I will see what they come back with. I am confident my chiller and pump is more than capable of maintaining whatever temp I may need to run just have to figure out the heat exchanger end of it.

3 weeks my new room should be up and running hopefully. I have rooted clones already and have to keep them as small as possible until the move so I dont have to start from scratch.

I am not saying get rid of the chiller and ice box. Those will bring your temps to 69-70. The essential oils which produce odor release the most odor above 73 degrees. If you keep your room below 73 degrees, you are much less likely to smell the plants. Your 1000w is the main source of heat in your room, and vent it out correctly and you will get the 70 degrees with your icebox. Have the ice box running on its own fan, no ducting at all, just free standing in the room. Also, check to see if your water chiller can run 2 ice boxes. May be worth looking into.

I have 2 carbon filters I was going to run in the rooms just to circulate and kill smell. I was worried if I did vent my lights it would leak smell through possible leaks in duct or hood.

I am running co2 so I want my temps around 80 so can I do that with one ice box and a 440cfm fan pulling through the hood and ice box sealed? I can keep the chiller water as low as 55 degrees if I need to and drain condensation.
I am sure the chiller can handle more than one ice box but I have a veg room to cool with a 600 hps to so I want to use the minimum ice boxes as possible to maintain 80 degrees. Ambient temps will be 70 degrees.

Awesome man looks like you have everything under control. I can't wait until your room is up and running. I am about to upload pics of mine, check out my sig.