just thought i would post a reply to you lot who have help in this scrog growing, the following grow after the one discused in this thred went well used two plants with everthing the same i ended up getting over 5oz out of it and won some seeds by sending my pics to soft secrets paper in the netherlands will be published in the 23rd of december haha..... i ended up getting ten fem 4 way special seeds so going to startthem after my next grow. so a big big thanks for your help peace and sweet smoking........