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arkady

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Coco is really easy if youve done hydro before. If all you’ve done is dirt then coco is very difficult. Take everything you know about dirt and bury it somewhere.
Im doing my bits and studing about coco and I have learnt one thing coco is easy to fix I just dont know whats wrong at this point
 

Bernie420

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Yeah I did flush the coc and feeding it with calmag and some other nutrient. I do feel they need bigger pots as i start to see the roots come out out of one of the pots. I want to get there before it happens. The pots have lots of holes and the tent is well aired
Define some other nutrient. At what ppm?
Your just a little shy of mag , foliar feed some mag to it.
What light? raise it up some. Slow the grow.
I wouldnt transplant if I just seen one root. I would wait there not that big. if you do you could put them in dirt, if you dont like the coco.
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Im doing my bits and studing about coco and I have learnt one thing coco is easy to fix I just dont know whats wrong at this point
 

arkady

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Define some other nutrient. At what ppm?
Your just a little shy of mag , foliar feed some mag to it.
What light? raise it up some. Slow the grow.
I wouldnt transplant if I just seen one root. I would wait there not that big. if you do you could put them in dirt, if you dont like the coco. I try to keep my ph 5.9-6.2 they got lil hot
I use terra veg by canna and calmag. I feed them under a slightly smaller dosage than recommended by the company. I did raise the light a bit too. I would prefer to stay using coco. I try to keep my ph 5.8-6.2 they got lil hot there few days ago but i got lil fan in there now. Temp is around 22-25C
 

arkady

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Define some other nutrient. At what ppm?
Your just a little shy of mag , foliar feed some mag to it.
What light? raise it up some. Slow the grow.
I wouldnt transplant if I just seen one root. I would wait there not that big. if you do you could put them in dirt, if you dont like the coco.
Full spectrum enchanced LED 150W going to bump it to 375 next week. I also feel one of the plans has now stopped growing.
 

Powertech

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Full spectrum enchanced LED 150W going to bump it to 375 next week. I also feel one of the plans has now stopped growing.
Which light though?

I’m going to try coco, after a few more soil grows. Having to feed a lot more often with Coco, I guess you feed less concentrated? If not you’d go through a lot more nutes
 

Gond00s

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try to hit them with a 6.5 when they are ready to be watered u cant drown them I feed them when they start getting very light when I lift them but if they are on the verge of needing it and lights about to turn off I just give them like 4 cups of water till the morning when the lights come on but their in 7 gal pots and very developed
 

arkady

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try to hit them with a 6.5 when they are ready to be watered u cant drown them I feed them when they start getting very light when I lift them but if they are on the verge of needing it and lights about to turn off I just give them like 4 cups of water till the morning when the lights come on but their in 7 gal pots and very developed
Which light though?

I’m going to try coco, after a few more soil grows. Having to feed a lot more often with Coco, I guess you feed less concentrated? If not you’d go through a lot more nutes
Samsung light. They are officially done. Today they look like someone has poured bleach over them. I dont even want to carry on with them... They look awful
 

arkady

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try to hit them with a 6.5 when they are ready to be watered u cant drown them I feed them when they start getting very light when I lift them but if they are on the verge of needing it and lights about to turn off I just give them like 4 cups of water till the morning when the lights come on but their in 7 gal pots and very developed
They are under 24h light now mate
 

coreywebster

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150w of Samsung diodes? Which brand light (just so I can be sure it is what it should be)

Over what space?
At what height?

What air temperature?

What hours of light? (edit, sry missed the 24h bit, are they autos?)

Canna terra is for soil. You might have to bump your calmag up an wee bit using it in coco.

Do not throw these plants away. Your going to do the same thing again with new ones...
 

arkady

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150w of Samsung diodes? Which brand light (just so I can be sure it is what it should be)

Over what space?
At what height?

What air temperature?

What hours of light? (edit, sry missed the 24h bit, are they autos?)

Canna terra is for soil. You might have to bump your calmag up an wee bit using it in coco.

Do not throw these plants away. Your going to do the same thing again with new ones...
Well said. I need to find out whats wrong in order to learn.

Its genuine light drom diyuk. They are certi Samsung light strips.

Not autos, I run my veg cycle under 24h flip to 12/12 for flower when ready.

60x60x180. Temp between 22C-26C.

I'll up the calmag on my next fed is due tomorrow.
 

coreywebster

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Well said. I need to find out whats wrong in order to learn.

Its genuine light drom diyuk. They are certi Samsung light strips.

Not autos, I run my veg cycle under 24h flip to 12/12 for flower when ready.

60x60x180. Temp between 22C-26C.

I'll up the calmag on my next fed is due tomorrow.
Right, powerful light then.

Ok, you never said how high it is above your plants, but been its 150w over 2x2 its too much.
That would be great in flower at 18" above plants, but its too much for this stage.
Reduce your hours of light to 18h
If you can dim then dim it to 50% , raise it to 24" if its lower.
If you have the option to lower extraction then do that and try and raise the temps to 80f.
If you cant do that then and have no other way of keeping it warmer then obviously dimming the light will lower the temp due to less wattage, so to avoid that as a last resort run full power and raise the light much much higher.
 

arkady

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Right, powerful light then.

Ok, you never said how high it is above your plants, but been its 150w over 2x2 its too much.
That would be great in flower at 18" above plants, but its too much for this stage.
Reduce your hours of light to 18h
If you can dim then dim it to 50% , raise it to 24" if its lower.
If you have the option to lower extraction then do that and try and raise the temps to 80f.
If you cant do that then and have no other way of keeping it warmer then obviously dimming the light will lower the temp due to less wattage, so to avoid that as a last resort run full power and raise the light much much higher.
Yes it is indeed. I already have raise the light to 20'' but will raise it to 24''.
Ok. Will it not shock the plant at this point enough to make more harm than good? They are almonst month old now.
I can lower theextraction fan, no probs here. Ill bring the temp of the room up so it should help me maintain the temp inside the tent at higher volume.
I didnt realise this light is in fact this powerful. Im just following the manufacturer recommendations at this point but ill change it all up now
 

Wastei

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It's really hard to overdo it with "calmag" in Coco. What I don't like is the added nitrogen. I had great results with Canna Coco A and B back in the days. It contains a lot of calcium and magnesium and not to much nitrogen for flowering. I like to use just one product in containers. Canna nutrient lines is also designed to be used with tap/well water so I believe its a good line to start with. I never had to pH the solution after mixing with tap water. If I remember correctly I used to feed at 0.7 EC in Coco in flower.

Like other people stated you should think like you're growing hydroponically and go by same schedules regarding nutrient profiles. You're really doing fine, it takes some practice to understand hydro and developing proper watering techniques. Go by weight of the containers to know when to water and don't let them dry out as much as you would in soil. I think you will learn a lot this run, just keep at it! Good luck!
 

arkady

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It's really hard to overdo it with "calmag" in Coco. What I don't like is the added nitrogen. I had great results with Canna Coco A and B back in the days. It contains a lot of calcium and magnesium and not to much nitrogen for flowering. I like to use just one product in containers. Canna nutrient lines is also designed to be used with tap/well water so I believe its a good line to start with. I never had to pH the solution after mixing with tap water. If I remember correctly I used to feed at 0.7 EC in Coco in flower.

Like other people stated you should think like you're growing hydroponically and go by same schedules regarding nutrient profiles. You're really doing fine, it takes some practice to understand hydro and developing proper watering techniques. Go by weight of the containers to know when to water and don't let them dry out as much as you would in soil. I think you will learn a lot this run, just keep at it! Good luck!
Thanks. This is exactly how i like to check if the plans need water. By the weight. Either way ill keep at it. I feel like these plans have only days in them left any ways. I dont think the pictures are really doing the justace.
 

arkady

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It's really hard to overdo it with "calmag" in Coco. What I don't like is the added nitrogen. I had great results with Canna Coco A and B back in the days. It contains a lot of calcium and magnesium and not to much nitrogen for flowering. I like to use just one product in containers. Canna nutrient lines is also designed to be used with tap/well water so I believe its a good line to start with. I never had to pH the solution after mixing with tap water. If I remember correctly I used to feed at 0.7 EC in Coco in flower.

Like other people stated you should think like you're growing hydroponically and go by same schedules regarding nutrient profiles. You're really doing fine, it takes some practice to understand hydro and developing proper watering techniques. Go by weight of the containers to know when to water and don't let them dry out as much as you would in soil. I think you will learn a lot this run, just keep at it! Good luck!
This is my 4th run in coco and first of this kind issue. Never seen my plans die on me so quick before
 

arkady

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Well said. I need to find out whats wrong in order to learn.

Its genuine light drom diyuk. They are certi Samsung light strips.

Not autos, I run my veg cycle under 24h flip to 12/12 for flower when ready.

60x60x180. Temp between 22C-26C.

I'll up the calmag on my next fed is due tomorrow.
As you have suggested I have done all this and they are still on their way down....
 

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myke

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Well I’ve up rooted coco plants before. Move away the coco around the roots ball so you can get a good look. If the roots are good put back into a smaller container with per light. This will give them lots of air. On a side note you could also wash all the coco off the roots and drop in a bubble bucket. I’ve done this several times as most of the clones I get are in some sort of soiless mix.
Either or it’s too bad there not responding. Good luck.
 
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