Sannie's SugarPunch

undercovergrow said:

update on my smoke report: okay, i am definitely running this again. a few days of smoking this and i really like it. the initial high, for lack of a better description, i'll describe it as that third-eye tingle you get on a good smoke, that lasts for around an hour--but i am getting a body stone from it that lasts me for a long time; so much so, that normally i would smoke again in the mid- to late-afternoon, but am waiting until the evening. i also harvested a bit early, and am not experiencing any couch-lock with her--i'm able to get up and get things done. a few tokes, and the high (third-eye thing going on) comes back quickly...and bumps up the body stone. did i mention i am running this again?
i'd also like to remind everyone that my SP was seeded up heavily. i really didn't think i had added that much pollen to her when i was chuckin' it at her. i don't know if that affects the potency.
spaaacecowboy, i'd run it if you haven't already.

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That's great to hear ucg! You've got me hopeful again.

How did your SP look while growing her? Was it an impressive specimen, or just meh? Lot's of frost, or no?

my SP was sad looking as far as other grows. think it was a calcium or nitrogen overdose. she was also in a small air-pot. definitely want to try growing her again and do a better job. she needs a much longer veg than i gave her--she only got a few weeks and ended up a very small plant, hardly any stretch.

undercovergrow said:

update on my smoke report: okay, i am definitely running this again. a few days of smoking this and i really like it. the initial high, for lack of a better description, i'll describe it as that third-eye tingle you get on a good smoke, that lasts for around an hour--but i am getting a body stone from it that lasts me for a long time; so much so, that normally i would smoke again in the mid- to late-afternoon, but am waiting until the evening. i also harvested a bit early, and am not experiencing any couch-lock with her--i'm able to get up and get things done. a few tokes, and the high (third-eye thing going on) comes back quickly...and bumps up the body stone. did i mention i am running this again?
i'd also like to remind everyone that my SP was seeded up heavily. i really didn't think i had added that much pollen to her when i was chuckin' it at her. i don't know if that affects the potency.
spaaacecowboy, i'd run it if you haven't already.

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Seeded plants focus their energy more on seeds than resin production. My understanding is it does effect potency, but I won't really know for sure until I do it myself (soon).

undercovergrow said:

my SP was sad looking as far as other grows. think it was a calcium or nitrogen overdose. she was also in a small air-pot. definitely want to try growing her again and do a better job. she needs a much longer veg than i gave her--she only got a few weeks and ended up a very small plant, hardly any stretch.

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Little stretch eh? My first phenotype which I did not keep and was more indica dominant was the least stretchy for me. The rest showed quite a bit. My fastest flowering one is a lot like C99 in terms of growth pattern only even more floppy.

OGEvilgenius said:

Little stretch eh? My first phenotype which I did not keep and was more indica dominant was the least stretchy for me. The rest showed quite a bit. My fastest flowering one is a lot like C99 in terms of growth pattern only even more floppy.

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i didn't veg her for very long in anticipation of a lot of stretch. i'll be prepared for more stretch on my next run plus i'll veg for longer.

st0wandgrow said:

I know better than to judge a plant based upon looks, but it certainly doesn't have me excited about it at this point. The lack of trichomes is I guess what Im basing that on. About 7.5 weeks in to flower so things may pick up in the last few weeks.

I really wonder if Sannie lost one of the parents to this cross or something. He had a bitch of a time making seeds .... A couple failed attempts if Im not mistaken. It's just weird that people raved over grows from older seed stock, and now we have a bunch of people growing new seed stock all reporting so-so looking plants.

Who knows, maybe the smoke will blow me away. That's all that really matters

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Same thing has crossed my mind. I'm only at week 2 going into 3, but I'm just now starting to see trichs on the lower buds and the smell is there but it's not strong at all, the smell is very... sweet tho. I expected to just be blown away by this strain because of all the rave reviews I've read. So far... meh, I don't really like it at all! It's stretchy as fuck, my scrog is ruined, node spacing is the worst I've ever seen. It looks like a fucking jungle in my tent.. and I don't like it! She continues to stretch to this day, I flipped July 9th and she is still stretching over night (maybe this is normal..? i don't know I've never encountered this much stretch before) Maybe I vegged too long (5 weeks) and flipped too late, I'm still a novice grower in my eyes, still learning everyday, only have 4 runs under my belt, so who knows maybe I fucked it up.. but I don't see how. I'm all organic, running SIP's and water with SST(barley, corn, alfalfa, aloe vera and coconut water - I alternate corn/alfalfa) once a week, foliar kelp+alfalfa+protekt+fp+aloe once a week, had my CMH closer than I've ever run it before and now I've had to raise the light everyday this week when I wake up because she is stretching so much. CMH is so far away now that I'll have to stagger this harvest, taking the top buds first and then lowering the light and letting the bottom ones go for another week or 2. Maybe my pot is too big, my stretchy one is in a 20 gallon geo pot. Well, 1 of the colas that is stretching alot is right in the middle of the damn canopy, I could have tucked that one a couple more times, I know that was my fault, but still doesn't explain the stretch and spaced nodes. All I know is this smoke better knock my dick right into the dirt or maybe it's just the pheno... I hope because I have got 5 more packs of SP to run...

Now on my other SP (I have 2 going) I'm not really sure whats going on with that one, it's super low man... but I've trained her low... she seems very slow growing but it's under an A51 RW-75 LED with CFL side lighting in a 2x2... compared to my other SP which is under a 400w CMH in a 3x3. So I'm thinking she's just growing slower because she's not really under much light, I shoulda got 2 of the RW-75's but I was lacking funds at the time.. hell shoulda just made my own LED I think.. and I will at some point. She just seems to be growing much slower than my other SP, the other SP exploded, insane growth. Getting ready to flip my 2nd SP in a couple of days, we'll see how things go. Maybe I'll start a thread and throw some pictures up for those of you running SP... I know I like to see other peoples pictures for reference and comparing mine to theirs.

Just thought I'd throw my 2 cents in since I'm running this new batch of SP also.

its not you dude..its the breeding.the proof is right in front of you.either this was a rushed job by sannie,or all the negatives are entirely overlooked in reviews because of the super awesome "will stone willie nelson" buds reported to come from this strain..
im no dissing it yet till i smoke it,but so far my reviews are dead evenn with yours...

update..the stretch put a little mass on the s.p..this is the size i wanted when it went into flowering,but it never got big till 2 weeks into flower..also the comparison of others planted at the same time..s.p still runting it,but looking good,had to feed them finally today..
also the huckleberry kush coming along...

well I just dropped two Sugar Punch in shot glasses last night....If all goes well they will be in peat pellets tonight...

Hopefully I can get something decent from them.

sugarpunch..the smartpot one..huckleberry sprout is rockin..battery went low befor i could snap a pic of it and the jack/ms.

well I have a total of four SPs, three of my own and one from a fellow RIU member (thank you Keizer). It appears that I have three diff phenos, judging on leaf formation and appearance, I have two mad scientist/jackberry (look great). Roughly 15 cms high, going to switch them to 12/12 this weekend, i'll be posting updates in about 45 days, and again near harvest. 100% organic grow, using the same methods and techniques I've used for years, I can promise you all i'll give more info then, I can then tell you guys for sure if they are keepers or not.

greasemonkeymann said:

well I have a total of four SPs, three of my own and one from a fellow RIU member (thank you Keizer). It appears that I have three diff phenos, judging on leaf formation and appearance, I have two mad scientist/jackberry (look great). Roughly 15 cms high, going to switch them to 12/12 this weekend, i'll be posting updates in about 45 days, and again near harvest. 100% organic grow, using the same methods and techniques I've used for years, I can promise you all i'll give more info then, I can then tell you guys for sure if they are keepers or not.

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I've got two coming down this weekend. 70 days. Looks like a SSH pheno with looser looking spear shaped buds (the frostier of the two) and a "The One "pheno with rounder nugs that have hints of purple in them. I'll be sure to post up a puff report once they're ready...

sounds delicious stow.

st0wandgrow said:

I've got two coming down this weekend. 70 days. Looks like a SSH pheno with looser looking spear shaped buds (the frostier of the two) and a "The One "pheno with rounder nugs that have hints of purple in them. I'll be sure to post up a puff report once they're ready...

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that's great! maybe get some wet pics too, before the cured ones. Did most of your leaves look sativa-ish? I gather that'd be from the SSH? One of mine and the one I got from a friend have some thin sativa-ish leaves, but kinda small node spacing, weird... Honestly the freebie MSxJB looks the happiest of them all. For the sugarpunchs i'm going to be using my "jack herer" version of my own soil mix, meaning the one I tweaked over time to be for my Jack, it's lower in manures, higher in EWC and guano, bone meal, fish meal, etc. It's about 2/3 the strength of my "blue dream" mix, (lil hotter) but more specifically that mix has alpaca and rabbit manure in it. From my suspicions the sugarpunch seems to be a light feeder, like my jack. So that's what i'm going with. If she asks for more, i'll give her more, but not unless she needs it, I prefer base runs with new strains to be lightly fed, just my preference.

greasemonkeymann said:

that's great! maybe get some wet pics too, before the cured ones. Did most of your leaves look sativa-ish? I gather that'd be from the SSH? One of mine and the one I got from a friend have some thin sativa-ish leaves, but kinda small node spacing, weird... Honestly the freebie MSxJB looks the happiest of them all. For the sugarpunchs i'm going to be using my "jack herer" version of my own soil mix, meaning the one I tweaked over time to be for my Jack, it's lower in manures, higher in EWC and guano, bone meal, fish meal, etc. It's about 2/3 the strength of my "blue dream" mix, (lil hotter) but more specifically that mix has alpaca and rabbit manure in it. From my suspicions the sugarpunch seems to be a light feeder, like my jack. So that's what i'm going with. If she asks for more, i'll give her more, but not unless she needs it, I prefer base runs with new strains to be lightly fed, just my preference.

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I think that's a pretty good plan. I make my own organic soil too. I don't tweak it for different plants though ..... and honestly these SP are probably two of the fuggliest plants I've had in my garden. It could very well be that my soil is a little rich for their liking. If I like one of these pheno's I'll likely cut the mix a bit with some added peat moss and EWC and see if they respond better.

st0wandgrow said:

I think that's a pretty good plan. I make my own organic soil too. I don't tweak it for different plants though ..... and honestly these SP are probably two of the fuggliest plants I've had in my garden. It could very well be that my soil is a little rich for their liking. If I like one of these pheno's I'll likely cut the mix a bit with some added peat moss and EWC and see if they respond better.

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I haven't fed anything to any of the plants, I never do, during vege, I rely on transplanting into new containers to feed them, ALWAYS sprinkling a good amount of myco on the roots when I do, I mist the roots with water to make the myco stick and I get all the exposed roots, they look great, nice and green. I transplant twice during vege, from solo cups to gallon square containers, and then from there to my 5 or 7 gallon smartpot, depending on the strain and size of it. I learned a long time ago, that the best thing you can do to a plant is observe it, they don't need a WHOLE lot of attention after you dial in a good amended organic soil base. Just super light teas, and even that I only do probably 4-5 times during the life of the plant, and It'll sound arrogant, but I wouldn't change anything about my end product.
Now, if only I could find a simple solution to my red and two spotted mites, they seem to come back every grow..... fuckers... can't wait for winter, summer mites are a bitch.

greasemonkeymann said:

I haven't fed anything to any of the plants, I never do, during vege, I rely on transplanting into new containers to feed them, ALWAYS sprinkling a good amount of myco on the roots when I do, I mist the roots with water to make the myco stick and I get all the exposed roots, they look great, nice and green. I transplant twice during vege, from solo cups to gallon square containers, and then from there to my 5 or 7 gallon smartpot, depending on the strain and size of it. I learned a long time ago, that the best thing you can do to a plant is observe it, they don't need a WHOLE lot of attention after you dial in a good amended organic soil base. Just super light teas, and even that I only do probably 4-5 times during the life of the plant, and It'll sound arrogant, but I wouldn't change anything about my end product.
Now, if only I could find a simple solution to my red and two spotted mites, they seem to come back every grow..... fuckers... can't wait for winter, summer mites are a bitch.

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Ha! I've got an almost identical routine as you. I even use the 1 gallon square containers that I have left over from my hydro days. Too funny.

Since I started adding neem seed cake and crab shell meal to my mix I haven't had a bug. I think the silica I add helps too. Been well over a year. I really credit this mostly to the neem seed cake. I think it's the best IPM, and seems to really deter pests of any kind from setting up shop. Prior to using those inputs I was constantly battling mites, thrips, gnats, etc.

Had a very nice harvest... Got some pretty frosty girls. Sugar Punch lives up to her name... More pics soon.

KeizerSoze said:

Had a very nice harvest... Got some pretty frosty girls. Sugar Punch lives up to her name... More pics soon.

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that looks good Mike, but if that's a recent pic, i'd go a lil further, is that a current pic?

st0wandgrow said:

Ha! I've got an almost identical routine as you. I even use the 1 gallon square containers that I have left over from my hydro days. Too funny.

Since I started adding neem seed cake and crab shell meal to my mix I haven't had a bug. I think the silica I add helps too. Been well over a year. I really credit this mostly to the neem seed cake. I think it's the best IPM, and seems to really deter pests of any kind from setting up shop. Prior to using those inputs I was constantly battling mites, thrips, gnats, etc.

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interesting, I've never had problems with fungus gnats, and I always kinda thought that neem cake was more for them and thrips, but it's totally worth a shot if it helps with mites too.