Safe Injection Sites

Urca

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im not saying what anyone should and shouldnt do. Im saying i will never support it. Go ahead make your safe injection clinics, I will never support the idea
 

beardo

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eh, im saying she wouldnt have to smoke meth out of broken lightbulbs like she did, etc... my mom was a hard core addict, which is why i will never support programs like this one. EVER.
So she couldn't use because she couldn't go buy a pipe at the store? Or she was a feind and smoked out of lightbulbs instead of getting a pipe,? I don't think you get it and your thing about your mom and pipes is irrelevant, Plus any feind will be happy to clean your pipe for you
The point is that having things illegal does not prevent their existance and makes them more dangerous- Heroin doesn't kill many people- Dirty needles and bad cuts added to heroin kill people and cost socitey.
 

Urca

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No, im saying if she had access to some place safe to do drugs, she would have never come home. Drugs make people do bad things. Like forget they have three babies at home. So fuck that, ill never support it. My mom completely ruined her life, my dad's life, our lives. When she finally got clean, it was because she was tired of being a fiend, of having her kids away from her, tired of the lifestyle and the danger.
If it had been made easier for her to do drugs, i wouldnt even be where i am right now.
 

beardo

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No, im saying if she had access to some place safe to do drugs, she would have never come home. Drugs make people do bad things. Like forget they have three babies at home. So fuck that, ill never support it
Good thing people like you don't support it and there are laws against that sort of thing so it can't happen.....
Wait did you see the news or read the paper?
 

jonblaze420

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Supplying clean needles, condoms, and free HIV testing I support. Some of the places even do acupuncture to help people get clean, too.
 

Urca

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I personally didnt see anything in the news or the paper, its my own opinion based off of my life experiences
 

beardo

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so were things much worse 100 years ago with broken homes and drug addicts and crime and disease and people in prison?
 

beardo

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I personally didnt see anything in the news or the paper, its my own opinion based off of my life experiences
Way to catch a hint....I was saying if you look at the paper you will find a story about some crazy user doing something despite or possibly because of it's illegal status
You need to get out more
 

Urca

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Wow, the guy posted the thread asking everyones thoughts, i gave mine. I gave my reasons too... so im done here. I have to go to class.
 

beardo

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Wow, the guy posted the thread asking everyones thoughts, i gave mine. I gave my reasons too... so im done here. I have to go to class.
Good luck-Keep an open mind, question your reality, ask questions, examine facts, make up your own mind what is real and what is true and what is right.
 

beardo

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did you continue to shoot up?
And No I don't it's been years now, but I didn't stop because I caught Hep C and if I had been able to go buy needles at the local pharmacy I would have still quit and I wouldn't have a caught a viirus and would in turn be healthier and happeir and not ending up costing socitey as much.
 

kevin

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i was a dope head in the late 70's, early 80's. we use to share needles all the time but somehow i never got any of the fun little bugs that come with it, a few of my friends weren't as lucky. some of them have checked out of this world because of the lack of clean needles. i fully support giving free clean rigs to junkies, i'd have a few more friends if this program was availible back in the day.
 

Urca

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urca, did your mom quit using because she couldn't find a clean pipe?
no, it wasnt about clean pipe, i only mentioned because i think giving new pipes or any pipes to meth users is wrong... plus she used tin foil and broken light bulbs. I will never ever forget what she has done, so i will never ever support giving out needles and pipes. Yes, i feel the ugre to experiment, but i never will
 

beardo

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no, it wasnt about clean pipe, i only mentioned because i think giving new pipes or any pipes to meth users is wrong... plus she used tin foil and broken light bulbs. I will never ever forget what she has done, so i will never ever support giving out needles and pipes. Yes, i feel the ugre to experiment, but i never will
Either you don't understand the hypocracy or contradictions in your post or you are joking-?
So if your mom did meth and didn't use a pipe but used broken light bulbs, do you think she would have used more or used longer if she had pipes? Do you think they should out law tin foil and light bulbs? tin foil can be used by meth heads and meth is bad and ruins lives lets ban tin foil and arrest andone who has it-.
So you feel the urge to experiment? but never will? So if they sold meth pipes at the store near your house-which they probably do-would that be enough to make you decide to start using? What about if the store sold meth? would you get some to give it a try? knowing what you do about and its effects on peoples lives would you buy some if they sold it at the store?
 

Urca

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Im not joking, ive already given my reasons, idgaf anything else. Its morally wrong to me, and i will never support it.
 

beardo

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Im not joking, ive already given my reasons, idgaf anything else. Its morally wrong to me, and i will never support it.
It is morraly wrong to allow a person to buy a product like needles or drugs? but I have to pay taxes to buy people needles and drugs and I have to pay people to decide which drugs are legal and which ones people go to prison for and I have to pay to house those people in prison and to pay for their prosocution and their defence. Why should I pay for your drugs and needles but if you buy your own you go to prison?
You can go to a doctor and get the same or more dangerous drugs people are dying over, does that sound morraly right?
 

beardo

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I think they should out law gas stations and gas cans for all of our safety so no one will huff, gasoline is a dangerous hard drug- has anyone done any serious huffing? we need to save people ban gas so urca doesn't think it's a good idea to start doing gas just because they sell it.
 
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