Runt worth keeping ?

Jeffislovinlife said:

I'm still going with the red head in the back of the bar LoL as always thank you for your time and the best of luck

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You may regret that in the morning. Have a productive day. Peace.

Well I would hope so that would mean that I had one hella of a good time and all are welcome to join as always

Well maybe we should get your runt and my mistery lady together and have a real freakas always

Jeffislovinlife said:

Well maybe we should get your runt and my mistery lady together and have a real freakView attachment 4695658as always

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Mines past reveg from cutting. And I'm not digging up a 5gallon rootball to bring inside to reveg the stump. Like your thinking though. I'll be starting another search in a couple weeks though.

Let me know if you come across a short, single stem, FAT, DENSE, sativa xmas tree with more mellow taste than swamp skunk and pepper. Also hard couch lock. My search would be over. Kushes have been closest so far.

TurboTokes said:

why make up numbers? Light meters dont measure wattage pulled from the wall, so how is it reading "about just under 900 watts"and as mentionned that light pulls well under 200w. The problem when making things up is people cannot give you proper advice.

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So if my lights are not strong enough . Just for now . What should I do with the height of the light. Over 3 one gallon plants. They’re week 3 seedlings. A little shorter than normal obviously but they’re healthy and doing fine as of right now. if it’s only drawing 180w the light intensity should be stronger no? Isn’t that how led works ? @steve870

TurboTokes said:

That light is only adequate to flower about 16 square inches, going to be a tight flowerring room with 6 plants

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They’ve also not even hit veg stage yet. They’ve been above ground for maybe 2 1/2 weeks. Node spacing is great so far. It’s working on its 3rd node. I’ve lowered the light to maybe a foot above the plants.

Jeffislovinlife said:

You walk in to a bar and see that fine blonde at the bar but it the redhead in the back corner that going to rock your world let it grow as always thank you for your time and the best of luck

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Call me greedy but I would figure out a way to have both, now that will rock their world as well as yours.

ChillStillLearning said:

if it’s only drawing 180w the light intensity should be stronger no? Isn’t that how led works ? @steve870

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i don't understand what you mean. 182w is 182w it's the same power as would be a 182 w hps

steve870 said:

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i don't understand what you mean. 182w is 182w it's the same power as would be a 182 w hps

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I’m saying how LED works in general . Say like a 4w led Has the brightness of about 40w bulb. I’m just trying to understand it all myself that’s all. Not saying you’re wrong either. I just want to know exactly what I’m dealing with. Hell I might just buy another one of these when I go to flower.

ChillStillLearning said:

I’m saying how LED works in general . Say like a 4w led Has the brightness of about 40w bulb. I’m just trying to understand it all myself that’s all. Not saying you’re wrong either. I just want to know exactly what I’m dealing with. Hell I might just buy another one of these when I go to flower.

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I want no part of the debate.

You are looking for LED type and manufacturer for given intensity. It does vary across the multiples in each of those two. If I understand your question ? Yes there is a difference in output based upon led being compared to almost standard HID. Peace.

ChillStillLearning said:

I’m saying how LED works in general . Say like a 4w led Has the brightness of about 40w bulb. I’m just trying to understand it all myself that’s all. Not saying you’re wrong either. I just want to know exactly what I’m dealing with. Hell I might just buy another one of these when I go to flower.

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That's not really how it works, what you want to look at is the usable light. Cheap leds like these will produce around the same usable light as hps/mh watt for watt but they won't put out as much heat. That is of course different for higher end lights

ChillStillLearning said:

I’m saying how LED works in general . Say like a 4w led Has the brightness of about 40w bulb.

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steve870 said:

That's not really how it works, what you want to look at is the usable light. Cheap leds like these will produce around the same usable light as hps/mh watt for watt but they won't put out as much heat. That is of course different for higher end lights

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so what should I look for in a better light if I want to get one. What qualities should I be looking for

MICHI-CAN said:

I want no part of the debate.

You are looking for LED type and manufacturer for given intensity. It does vary across the multiples in each of those two. If I understand your question ? Yes there is a difference in output based upon led being compared to almost standard HID. Peace.

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I’m not debating. I’m just trying to make sense of all of my confusion lol I’m not mad I bought a cheap light . I know it’s cheaper lol I just want to know how much it’ll work and how to get the best out of it . But that last post is no debate just wondering. My name says it all.

ChillStillLearning said:

so what should I look for in a better light if I want to get one. What qualities should I be looking for

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if you absolutely want led your should look for recent samsung diodes. But good led are very expensive 4-800$ a piece

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I’m not debating. I’m just trying to make sense of all of my confusion lol I’m not mad I bought a cheap light . I know it’s cheaper lol I just want to know how much it’ll work and how to get the best out of it . But that last post is no debate just wondering. My name says it all.

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I respect your honesty and questions. We all have them or will. I ran knock off V2 cree cobs for the last 5 years. Served Me well. Just made the jump to QB's. I would suggest a minimum of around a 100W actual per square foot with the cobs. You want 3500K - 3700K in LED. 3700K being my preference. My new boards are 750W total. Waiting to learn them when I come indoors.

Now that I am trying to assist you, willingly. LOL. I only have limited tech knowledge on this subject. Cobs and LM 3528 strips are what I have grown with for a bit now.

Being a little bright electrically (tiny joke) but have no idea of the difference between run of the mill Leds and the serious Led strips available. I just decided to use roughly a minimum 40W (from wall) per sq/ft as a guide to flowering. I also lean toward using something like a 3000k light rather than purple or whatever. I was not about to pay $1k for lights at this stage of the game.

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Being a little bright electrically (tiny joke) but have no idea of the difference between run of the mill Leds and the serious Led strips available. I just decided to use roughly a minimum 40W (from wall) per sq/ft as a guide to flowering. I also lean toward using something like a 3000k light rather than purple or whatever. I was not about to pay $1k for lights at this stage of the game.

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Every one has their K. As long as it works for you and it is practical for your needs you're good. Master that and learn the rest as you do.

MICHI-CAN said:

Every one has their K. As long as it works for you and it is practical for your needs you're good. Master that and learn the rest as you do.

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Failed to mention, have some 5000k for veg.

Jeffislovinlife said:

I'm still going with the red head in the back of the bar LoL as always thank you for your time and the best of luck

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Please tell me that in the morning you tell the red head, “as always thank you for your time and best of luck”.