Roseman
Elite Rolling Society
OK, let me tell you where I am at on my grow and with feeding.
And I am going out on a limb here too.
I did order and receive the ADVANCED NUTRIENTS.
I was told by many growers that use them that they will balance the pH for you and you can toss the pH UP and the pH Down if you use Advanced Nutrients.
Sounded good to me, so I ordered the BLOOM, and they came in two one gallon jugs, labeled Part A and Part B. The instructions say to add them separately to the tank and make the ppm 800 to 900 per reservoir or 1.8 tablespoon per gallon of water.
That was simple enough.
I noticed that one container contained NO Nitrogen, and very high on Phosperous and very little Potassium.
The other container was High on Nitrogen, Low on Phosperous and High on Potassium.
Hmmmmm??? Nitrogen in Bloom Nutes?????
ADVANCED NUTRIENTS is one of the very few nutrients sold and labeled that they are made especially for marijuana growing.
Hhhhhmmmm? Bloom Nutes High in Nitrogen??????
The container labeled High in Nitrogen looks like Liquid Karma, it is a brown liquid and not thin either. I decided to remain loyal to my SH pre-packaged nutes for this grow, but I wanted to try the ADVANCED NUTRIENTS, so I used them ONLY in my 5 gallon experimental bucket.
After two days, I noticed a couple of changes.
One, first thing I noticed is they started having a stronger skunk smell again, like when they were in the VEG cycle. A few days after I first started the BLOOM nutes , the strong smell diminshed. After adding the Advanced Nutrients with Nitrogen, the bad stink came back And strong too.
Two, secondly I noticed that the the lower third of the plant's leaves QUIT having dying off, falling off, yellowing leaves. I was averaging 3 or 4 leaves a day falling off, and suddenly NONE fell off. They quit yellowing and falling off.
Three, I noticed all kinds of new green leaves growing out of the flowers or bud sites.
Hhhhmmmm, had to be the Nitrogen!
So I spent almost an entire day googling and searching for info on adding Nitrogen during the Flowereing Cycle. VERY INTERESTING.
I ALSO LOOKED THROUGH 4 BOOKS. All I could find is advice saying DO NOT ADD VEG NUTES(Nitrogen) DURING THE BLOOM CYCLE, because of the affect on TASTE. There was no other reason NOT to do it.
So, I asked some expert growers.
Uncle Ben says he always adds a small amount of Nitrogen nutes to the Bloom Cycle and none of his lower leaves yellow and fall off.
A nameless large outdoor commerical grower that I know told me he digs a giant hole and throws all the dirt away and fills the hole back up with an assortment of different soils, peat moss, all kinds of different manure and bat poop and all kinds of nitrogen. He said when his plants naturally go to 12/12, they never shed a lower leaf. He never adds any phosperous or anything else either. He grows those 15 to 20 foot tall trees too.
He said he does not flush them, how could he flush an outdoor tree in soil? And he says that he never gets any nitrogen-fertilizer taste in his buds either.
And in my asking around, many indoor hydro growers say their secret trick is to add a little Nitrogen during BLOOM to get larger buds and a larger harvest.
So, on my other two tanks, when I added one gallon of water back, I added 1/6 packet of VEG nutes. Now they are not shedding any leaves and the bud sites are rapidly filling in too.
And they are all stinking to high heaven.
I am not suggesting or recommending that you do the same thing and add Nitrogen nutes to the Bloom Cycle. I might really be making a mistake. The buds might taste aweful later.
I might stop bud growth, I don't know for sure.
This is just an EXPERIMENT.
And I am going out on a limb here too.
I did order and receive the ADVANCED NUTRIENTS.
I was told by many growers that use them that they will balance the pH for you and you can toss the pH UP and the pH Down if you use Advanced Nutrients.
Sounded good to me, so I ordered the BLOOM, and they came in two one gallon jugs, labeled Part A and Part B. The instructions say to add them separately to the tank and make the ppm 800 to 900 per reservoir or 1.8 tablespoon per gallon of water.
That was simple enough.
I noticed that one container contained NO Nitrogen, and very high on Phosperous and very little Potassium.
The other container was High on Nitrogen, Low on Phosperous and High on Potassium.
Hmmmmm??? Nitrogen in Bloom Nutes?????
ADVANCED NUTRIENTS is one of the very few nutrients sold and labeled that they are made especially for marijuana growing.
Hhhhhmmmm? Bloom Nutes High in Nitrogen??????
The container labeled High in Nitrogen looks like Liquid Karma, it is a brown liquid and not thin either. I decided to remain loyal to my SH pre-packaged nutes for this grow, but I wanted to try the ADVANCED NUTRIENTS, so I used them ONLY in my 5 gallon experimental bucket.
After two days, I noticed a couple of changes.
One, first thing I noticed is they started having a stronger skunk smell again, like when they were in the VEG cycle. A few days after I first started the BLOOM nutes , the strong smell diminshed. After adding the Advanced Nutrients with Nitrogen, the bad stink came back And strong too.
Two, secondly I noticed that the the lower third of the plant's leaves QUIT having dying off, falling off, yellowing leaves. I was averaging 3 or 4 leaves a day falling off, and suddenly NONE fell off. They quit yellowing and falling off.
Three, I noticed all kinds of new green leaves growing out of the flowers or bud sites.
Hhhhmmmm, had to be the Nitrogen!
So I spent almost an entire day googling and searching for info on adding Nitrogen during the Flowereing Cycle. VERY INTERESTING.
I ALSO LOOKED THROUGH 4 BOOKS. All I could find is advice saying DO NOT ADD VEG NUTES(Nitrogen) DURING THE BLOOM CYCLE, because of the affect on TASTE. There was no other reason NOT to do it.
So, I asked some expert growers.
Uncle Ben says he always adds a small amount of Nitrogen nutes to the Bloom Cycle and none of his lower leaves yellow and fall off.
A nameless large outdoor commerical grower that I know told me he digs a giant hole and throws all the dirt away and fills the hole back up with an assortment of different soils, peat moss, all kinds of different manure and bat poop and all kinds of nitrogen. He said when his plants naturally go to 12/12, they never shed a lower leaf. He never adds any phosperous or anything else either. He grows those 15 to 20 foot tall trees too.
He said he does not flush them, how could he flush an outdoor tree in soil? And he says that he never gets any nitrogen-fertilizer taste in his buds either.
And in my asking around, many indoor hydro growers say their secret trick is to add a little Nitrogen during BLOOM to get larger buds and a larger harvest.
So, on my other two tanks, when I added one gallon of water back, I added 1/6 packet of VEG nutes. Now they are not shedding any leaves and the bud sites are rapidly filling in too.
And they are all stinking to high heaven.
I am not suggesting or recommending that you do the same thing and add Nitrogen nutes to the Bloom Cycle. I might really be making a mistake. The buds might taste aweful later.
I might stop bud growth, I don't know for sure.
This is just an EXPERIMENT.
