Root rot prevention & other newbie questions

GreenthumbUPMI

Active Member
Dipping a toe into hydro (small drip system). I've read that in addition to close attention to ph and feeding, I need to add something to counter root rot. I'm also planning to run my pump for 15 minutes every 6 hours. Any advice (even ridicule) will be considered...
 

rkymtnman

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3 plants, with a 12-gallon cooler for a reservoir. 1/2" line running to 1/4" t-adapters at each plant. Medium will be perlite, though I may run coco coir in one since this is first and foremost an experiment. Thanks for the reply!
if you'd take a suggestion, build yourself 3 Hempy buckets with perlite. feed them with that setup once a day until runoff. super easy intro to hydro that will grow some really nice trees.
 

Larry3215

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I second the hempy bucket suggestion as a good first try at hydro. I would also highly recommend you avoid anything even remotely organic as far as nutes or additives. No teas, no worm casing, no kelp based crap, no molasses, no Mega Crop, no Advanced Nutes, etc etc etc.

Stick to pure salts like Jacks 321 hydro.

As far as stopping root rot:
1) Avoid anything organic as above.
2)This includes benificial bacteria like hydroguard, etc. Use H202 or chlorine to keep a sterile rez. If you are running Jacks and keep the rez cool, you dont even need much chlorine.
3) keep the water in the rez and buckets cool = 70F or below. For sure the rez water should stay at or below 70F. In your case, with a remote rez in a cooler, you could even keep it colder to be more safe. The water will warm up fine durring the drip process. The buckets will be in the tent, so you cant do much about that.

I dont agree 100% about the once a day feeding schedule. I think hempy buckets do a little better if you let them dry out somewhat between feedings. Not all the way dry though.

However, feeding once a day will work just fine, and is a very safe way to get started. The difference in growth isnt dramatic and not worth the risk of drying out the roots when you are a new grower. Just be sure your buckets are big enough or late in growth they could dry out between feedings.

By the way, stick with perlite if you do hempys.
Good luck!
 

GreenthumbUPMI

Active Member
I second the hempy bucket suggestion as a good first try at hydro. I would also highly recommend you avoid anything even remotely organic as far as nutes or additives. No teas, no worm casing, no kelp based crap, no molasses, no Mega Crop, no Advanced Nutes, etc etc etc.

Stick to pure salts like Jacks 321 hydro.

As far as stopping root rot:
1) Avoid anything organic as above.
2)This includes benificial bacteria like hydroguard, etc. Use H202 or chlorine to keep a sterile rez. If you are running Jacks and keep the rez cool, you dont even need much chlorine.
3) keep the water in the rez and buckets cool = 70F or below. For sure the rez water should stay at or below 70F. In your case, with a remote rez in a cooler, you could even keep it colder to be more safe. The water will warm up fine durring the drip process. The buckets will be in the tent, so you cant do much about that.

I dont agree 100% about the once a day feeding schedule. I think hempy buckets do a little better if you let them dry out somewhat between feedings. Not all the way dry though.

However, feeding once a day will work just fine, and is a very safe way to get started. The difference in growth isnt dramatic and not worth the risk of drying out the roots when you are a new grower. Just be sure your buckets are big enough or late in growth they could dry out between feedings.

By the way, stick with perlite if you do hempys.
Good luck!
Larry, thanks for the reply & advice. From what I've found, I was "on the way" to a hempy system - it just waters from a reservoir/pump on a timer instead of by hand. I have ALREADY even ordered "Jack's" nutes (a 3-compound combo)! Using cat litter pails (5-6 gallons), river rock up to the drain and perlite above. Let the learning begin!!
 

GreenthumbUPMI

Active Member
if you'd take a suggestion, build yourself 3 Hempy buckets with perlite. feed them with that setup once a day until runoff. super easy intro to hydro that will grow some really nice trees.
Great advice on the hempy system! See my reply to Larry3215 in the thread - sounds like I was pretty close to something workable. Leak testing this week while I make room for the 2nd tent - then off to the races!!
 

Renfro

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With drip systems, depending on medium, you should have enough time between top feed cycles to allow oxygen at the roots to prevent root rot. With LECA (hydroton / expanded clay pellets) it's typically every 4 - 6 hours when the lights are on and usually none are required when the lights are off. With perlite you have a much longer interval as it holds more moisture, therefore once daily is generally enough. If you cycle too often then the odds of root rot are high.

There are two ways to run hydro, sterile and with beneficial bacteria. Both methods can work provided they are executed well but you can only do one method so don't waste money buying products like the SAG GFF if you are also buying pool shock or h2o2.

BTW - Southern Ag Garden Friendly Fungicide is the same stuff as hydro guard but it is way more concentrated so is a better bang for your buck.
 

GreenthumbUPMI

Active Member
Great info! So I guess I'll start with one 15-minute soaking of the Perlite when the lights come on, and see what happens. Going to check out your "Grow Journal" & see what I can learn there. Thanks!
 

Failmore

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I second the hempy bucket suggestion as a good first try at hydro. I would also highly recommend you avoid anything even remotely organic as far as nutes or additives. No teas, no worm casing, no kelp based crap, no molasses, no Mega Crop, no Advanced Nutes, etc etc etc.

Stick to pure salts like Jacks 321 hydro.

As far as stopping root rot:
1) Avoid anything organic as above.
2)This includes benificial bacteria like hydroguard, etc. Use H202 or chlorine to keep a sterile rez. If you are running Jacks and keep the rez cool, you dont even need much chlorine.
3) keep the water in the rez and buckets cool = 70F or below. For sure the rez water should stay at or below 70F. In your case, with a remote rez in a cooler, you could even keep it colder to be more safe. The water will warm up fine durring the drip process. The buckets will be in the tent, so you cant do much about that.

I dont agree 100% about the once a day feeding schedule. I think hempy buckets do a little better if you let them dry out somewhat between feedings. Not all the way dry though.

However, feeding once a day will work just fine, and is a very safe way to get started. The difference in growth isnt dramatic and not worth the risk of drying out the roots when you are a new grower. Just be sure your buckets are big enough or late in growth they could dry out between feedings.

By the way, stick with perlite if you do hempys.
Good luck!
Curious why you included mega crop on this list? Is there something organic in the 1 part?
 

Wastei

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Curious why you included mega crop on this list? Is there something organic in the 1 part?
Kelp, aminos and chitosan oligosacharide. No problems running it sterile though. It will cause some pH fluctuations, but nothing serious and uncontrollable.

Next run I'm using their Two part. Part A 5-12-26. That's a copy of Jack's with added aminos. Got the "part B" (calcium nitrate) locally way cheaper.
 
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