skunkushybrid
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sarcasm now... words that say you think you know better than I do. You can't even get a simple overnute question right... and you talk about experience. Pull the other one... it has bells on.Its ok dude you are the man
Root Development vs Plant Growth
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natmoon
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This will be the last time i bother to have a conversation with you.Explain that to me also... where was I offensive? I didn't once offend you... you have issues with me... I can see that. Not like I'm bothered... I like the attention.
You always read anger into my posts... you remind me a little of roseman. You have a lot of pent up aggression in there... honestly nat' you need to chill the fook out.
IMO you have a bad know it all attitude,you don't listen and your so quick to dismiss everything that anyone else says from philosophical theories to actual knowledge and facts because you are so old and experienced right?
I believe that your in your twenties at most and that you've been growing for a year or 2.
I am sorry that i dared to challenge or add any of my opinions and experience to your posts,it wont happen again.
You imo are so arrogant and self opinionated that you have become blind to yourself.
You are full of anger imo as nothing else makes a person like this except anger and frustration unless your just naturally like it.then oh well thats a shame init.
Anyway i hope you get what you want from your plants and your experiments and goodbye
skunkushybrid
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innit?
Yeah, it's a shame innit mate.
It's a shame you're a bit of a muppet, also that you can't hold a decent conversation without steering away from the point to cry like a little girl.
I do seem to attract you fake hippies... and you're all psycho's.
oh yeah nat', have one of these...
daddychrisg
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I follow the advanced charts... to a degree. I look at it like they know better than I do about the right levels of nutes. I don't follow the charts exactly as they are based on an 8 week flower schedule... I'm also fairly experienced enough with them now to make calculations based on varying factors.
LOL, you guys crack me up! I just read this thread from the start, and man did it ever change! You both are abit agro imo, LOL! Hey Skunky did you see where you can change the # of weeks to what ever length of flowering cycle you are using? Check it out.. Hey Quick question for ya Skunky, what do you think of Advanced Nuts? What products do you think are there best? I have been using them for 2 cycles, and just now forming a opinion. I bought alot of there product @ cost, so I figured why not check them out. Anyhow, I hope we can change the direction of this thread from agro to something positive...Hit me with a PM if you would like to share more Advance Nuts advice...Peace, LOL
trapper
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the one plant i grew in a 5"pot from veg to flowering ended up beig a 10"slim bud that dried at 3 grams,it was only recieveing 5000 lumens of light on the outside perimeter,the root system remained healthy through out,i watered only every 2nd or 3rd day,it didnt drink alot because of its size.but it also needed no manicureing it was a neat plant,the fan leafs were tiny,but i next time i might do 20 of them but im worried what happened was a fluke and not the norm,but if i can keep trying new things and god willing i will next planting.
skunkushybrid
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it's the english for you... we're always arguing about something. We'll be sharing tea tomorrow like it never happened.
Honestly... i like all their (AN) products except sensizym. I use cannazym instead. I'm kinda going off B52 as well, as I think superthrive does the job just as well, is cheaper and you use less. Humic acid doesn't sit well in hydro either, so i don't use that. i think they all are good products... developed specifically for growing cannabis... they have won countless awards... i've built my nutes up over time. once you get them all you need to do is replace the ones that run out. imo they last a long time, except for sensizym (which i no longer use) and B52 which i may stop using soon, in favour of the superthrive.
skunkushybrid
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After giving 15 day old clones the equivalent to a 7 week veg feed if I were growing from seed. I expected today to have seen the purpling stems green out. Instead, I find more purple stems, and the plants are thickening out nicely. They are loving the nutes... and they are asking me for even more.
I still have half the feed left from yesterday... so they're just going to have to get that for today.
I may be imagining the worsening of the purpling... maybe because I half expected a little over nute... but no, it seems the opposite is true. I'll post a pic' later.
I still have half the feed left from yesterday... so they're just going to have to get that for today.
I may be imagining the worsening of the purpling... maybe because I half expected a little over nute... but no, it seems the opposite is true.
I'll post a pic' later.
skunkushybrid
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Great to see you back Graf... pm's in the post.
nongreenthumb
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skunkushybrid
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Everything is going just as i imagined it would. These guys are getting a bit big now, and with my tiny flowering height of (total plant size) 4ft. I can't really let these guys go past 15" which is where they are now.
If I let them get too tall I'm going to mess up on the stretch part of flowering. I wish i had more height, because I know these plants could happily veg' in here for another week. As it stands, I'm going to have to put them in within the next couple of days.
Flowering will be the crunch... I'm thinking that I'm going to have to water from the bottom with aerated water. Else I'm going to suffer too much droop in between feeds which will lose me budding time...
I've also been thinking that this will work because they are clones... i'm not sure what would happen to a seed plant if vegetated this big in the same sized pot... I'll get cracking on that one tomorrow, soon as a seed germinates.
If I let them get too tall I'm going to mess up on the stretch part of flowering. I wish i had more height, because I know these plants could happily veg' in here for another week. As it stands, I'm going to have to put them in within the next couple of days.
Flowering will be the crunch... I'm thinking that I'm going to have to water from the bottom with aerated water. Else I'm going to suffer too much droop in between feeds which will lose me budding time...
I've also been thinking that this will work because they are clones... i'm not sure what would happen to a seed plant if vegetated this big in the same sized pot... I'll get cracking on that one tomorrow, soon as a seed germinates.
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LoganSmith
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Hey Skunk,
Looks good, what type of lights r u using?
Can't wait to see the outcome.
Looks good, what type of lights r u using?
Can't wait to see the outcome.
skunkushybrid
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In veg' I have a 400w mh... for flower I'll be using a 400w HPS, although I have 2 lights in the flowering area... so once the chronics are done I could split these between the two lights... not sure yet.Hey Skunk,
Looks good, what type of lights r u using?
Can't wait to see the outcome.
skunkushybrid
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I should put these into flower today... I'm thinking. They're already quite large, and they should be on their way to giving me a decent yield. I have an indica plant still in the flowering area that will have to come down today. Two mother plants can be just shoved into a corner somewhere until the chronics have finished...
Yes, today would be a good day as it means the ex-moms can share the same feed.
Yes, today would be a good day as it means the ex-moms can share the same feed.
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skunkushybrid
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I've placed 15 plants into flower, and left myself with three indicas... two of which are very stretched, in veg' for further experimentation.
The flowerers, I believe, should all be Chronic x White Russian... unless a sneaky, stretched indica has managed to creep in.
Here's the first flower feed into 9litres of water:
Sensi Bloom A, 15ml
Sensi Bloom B, 15ml
MET Bloom, 9ml
Fulvic Acid, 9ml
Barricade, 1ml
Carboload, 7ml
Cannazym, 15ml
Piranha, 2.7g
Voodoo Juice, 27ml
EC... 1.0
The flowerers, I believe, should all be Chronic x White Russian... unless a sneaky, stretched indica has managed to creep in.
Here's the first flower feed into 9litres of water:
Sensi Bloom A, 15ml
Sensi Bloom B, 15ml
MET Bloom, 9ml
Fulvic Acid, 9ml
Barricade, 1ml
Carboload, 7ml
Cannazym, 15ml
Piranha, 2.7g
Voodoo Juice, 27ml
EC... 1.0
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natmoon
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I will bet that you find these nuggets much more dense because of their small pots.
Dont forget to make sure that water is well oxygenated as when those roots pack up later on they will be hard pressed to get any air.
Clones are looking nice and healthy,best of luck with this
Dont forget to make sure that water is well oxygenated as when those roots pack up later on they will be hard pressed to get any air.
Clones are looking nice and healthy,best of luck with this
skunkushybrid
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Thanks Nat. I haven't got a clue what is going to happen next, if I'm honest. I should max on 1.5 oz per plant after an 18 day veg like that.
This is where my logic rests: A 6 day veg per (max) half oz per plant. With an 18 day veg' I should be looking at 1.5 oz per plant. Yet if that is to happen I'm only going to fit 4-6 plants below one light, using the extra space afforded by the small pots. 15 should be too many.
Either way, this experiment is going to teach me something. I have long been interested in the relationship between root development and upward plant growth.
If these plants max out on an oz... then I'll try the same thing again in the same pots but with a 12 day veg, and if it gets the same result (an oz per plant) I will have learned the optimum pot size to achieve an oz per plant, should it be the case where roots have more to do with growing the plant than merely uptaking nutes.
This is where my logic rests: A 6 day veg per (max) half oz per plant. With an 18 day veg' I should be looking at 1.5 oz per plant. Yet if that is to happen I'm only going to fit 4-6 plants below one light, using the extra space afforded by the small pots. 15 should be too many.
Either way, this experiment is going to teach me something. I have long been interested in the relationship between root development and upward plant growth.
If these plants max out on an oz... then I'll try the same thing again in the same pots but with a 12 day veg, and if it gets the same result (an oz per plant) I will have learned the optimum pot size to achieve an oz per plant, should it be the case where roots have more to do with growing the plant than merely uptaking nutes.
natmoon
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I dunno if you do this or similar already but i have a small fish tank pump and i just blast my water with air for 6 hours before i water by just putting the tube straight into my water container.
Also do you know of anywhere that sells boron?
skunkushybrid
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No I don't do that. I've used other methods similar in the past... liquid oxygen etc... but at the time i was growing in DWC, so i don't think it made much difference. I honestly feel that the medium I grow in most now, coco coir, holds plenty of oxygen to sustain the plant without requiring any more.
No, I don't know anyone that sells boron. Why'd you ask?