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Rock, Paper, Scissors, Peak-Oil

Disco Pwnstar

New Member
i bit of a rant...

the american economy is due for a complete collapse by 2015 largely because of peak oil. ANY economic system that relies on continuous growth (which is all of them) will collapse because infinite growth defies the laws of physics. do you know how it would take to set up a new infostructure what will solve these problems? electricity, cars, coal, gas, chemical fertilizers, food shortage, fresh water shortage, and countless other threats are on the horizon. emerging markets like china and india have been going into countries and buying out large steaks of the world's oil reserves. one by one countries are telling us to fuck off (and they have their reasons). it takes 6 weeks to get oil from saudi arabia to a gas station in america, it takes 4 DAYS from venezuela. that would have been ideal but they told us to go fuck ourselves and sold it to china. all around the world america is getting middled out of the oil that is still in the ground, yet... we are STILL burning through the shit like we're still finding oil fields. even worse, if america tries to pull some crazy shit like in iraq we will have to world to answer to. china used 13% of iran's oil in 2003 imagine the numbers now, if we invade iran or any other oil producing country that is financed by a potential world power you better believe EVERYONE will turn on america. worse still, we are doing nothing to replace the edifice oil has provided to us. it would require countless amounts of oil just to build the infostructure that would save us, the only problem is even if we started tomorrow we wouldn't have enough oil to transition to another system. EVERYTHING that we use and need is derived from oil, coal, natural gas and water. america is borrowing against its debt from foreign countries that are using the proceeds to buy up the last reserves. this is not some distant threat, this is something we have to think about today. im no economist, just a regular dude who pays attention. if anyone else wants to chime in it would be cool to get some views from the average joe.

Money is a metaphor for being able to do something, oil IS that ability. keep that in mind when its all gone.

ps- did you know that major drug dealers in europe wont even take american dollars anymore? europe's largest bill in circulation is a €200 bill, thats worth about $260 vs the hundred dollar bill. european drug dealers are refusing american dollars to minimize the amount of physical bills in their possession. euro drug lords are refusing our money, love it.
 

Disco Pwnstar

New Member
i think its kinda bound to fail at this point, but i got a feeling this is going to be sooner then people think. think about this though, if you were running shit and you knew this was on the horizon, what kind of extremes would you go to in order to protect it? im no conspiracy theorist (besides thinking 9/11 was planned domestically), but there are a lot of "random" events in the news that if you applied the motive of peak oil you start getting a clearer picture of the means of which we intend on getting that oil.

its scary because we have no say in foreign policy and right now they are on a tightrope. there are a lot of ways this can go wrong.
 

bobtokes

Well-Known Member
I hope the economy fails... it will be the great equalizer and the people who actually work hard will get ahead...

if the world economie's fail it will be survival of the fittest, anarchy, people who work hard will be robbed by the fittest
simple as that, so why dont people buy cars that do 50mpg ?
 

Disco Pwnstar

New Member
if the world economie's fail it will be survival of the fittest, anarchy, people who work hard will be robbed by the fittest
simple as that, so why dont people buy cars that do 50mpg ?
because 50mpg car has nothing to do with the solution to this problem. fuck, a 100mpg car couldnt fix this. did you know there is 7 gallons of oil in every tire? there are over 6 million cars in the world, do you understand how much oil you need just to manufacture a vehicle? do you understand that you burn oil in the manufacturing of EVERY product?

there wont be 50mpg cars because there wont be any oil to make them, 9% decline in the world's oil production for the last 2 years.

you know how i said it'll be interesting to see how america tries to get that oil, we'll look at this... this is the scariest news story ive seen in a long time. mark my words, america just signed its fate...

http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/us-builds-up-its-bases-in-oilrich-south-america-1825398.html

in 5 years, a 50mpg car's only use will be for hiding under. btw, did you know "Cash for Clunkers" was a program from the chinese? because of our debt and the falling value of the american dollar, china agreed to accept large amounts of scrap metal since america doesnt have the money to settle its debts.
 

Balzac89

Well-Known Member
Get some solar panels installed on your home. They are cheap enough to pay themselves off in a few years and even sooner if you use enough. The power you don't use can be sold to the power company with a back flow meter. I plan on setting up a solar indoor grow in a year or so.
 

Balzac89

Well-Known Member
Were just gonna take it as it comes. Thats the way the U.S.A. works. We refuse to plan ahead.
 

Disco Pwnstar

New Member
very true, and good points. i was going to add that solar and wind are the only means to produce electricity effectively today...

...i guess i got caught up in the disparity of it all. i really hope the world understands that the american people have been radicalized intentionally by the government to fight their causes... they have to know or there will be no compassion towards america. the world believes america needs some tuff love and humility, i think they're on to something...


between you and me though, i'd be on the lookout for some 9/11 type bullshit to conveniently compel the american people to put armed forces in south america... all we need to do is "support our troops".

BUY A STICKER MOTHER FUCKER
 

Biosphere

Member
Disco pwnstar= my best friend.
Seriuosly I hate America for those reasons... or people in general. I almost went into political science... but if said any of my ideologies I would be pinned a socialist for sure lol. People are holding so tightly on to something that isnt even worth anything. it's paper. and nothing more.
And about 9/11.... wtf.. ugh. I would type more on the subject and how it was a huge push by the government... but alas. Ill forget as i type.
 
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