Rick Simpson Oil Cures Cancer?... Is it all BS?

Canna Connoiseur said:

The process in making oil may be the problem in some cases as well. I mean they are using solvents to extract the oil for from the bud. Sometimes people may be using it properly or not. For internal issues you may have to get it injected and etc. So there is a lot of gray area.
You will not get a definitive answer ever. Sometimes hope is a good thing before you leave this place. Stop complicating this and let people live. It is up to her.

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The oil is made with isopropyl and a rice cooker.. It takes 20 minutes to make.. And can be done in your backyard.. There is a video by Rick Simpson and he shows how to make it.. It is easy to make.. And for internal issues you simply ingest it like food.. But, I do agree with the rest of your post..

x iGrow x said:

But to totally discredit something based off the fact that it is illegal is ridiculous..

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I stopped reading your comment here, please enlighten me where I did this^. What is up with you guys putting words in my mouth... Please read all my comments before you reply to me please, you guys are making no sense....

x iGrow x said:

The oil is made with isopropyl and a rice cooker.. It takes 20 minutes to make.. And can be done in your backyard.. There is a video by Rick Simpson and he shows how to make it.. It is easy to make.. And for internal issues you simply ingest it like food.. But, I do agree with the rest of your post..

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Yes, it is easy to make. But please read all of my comments. I was not complicating anything nor was I stopping anyone from "living", my mother has no clue about my concerns and I have been planning on making the oil here for the last few weeks, it would have already been made if it were not for sub 10 degree F weather.

TicKle said:

regardless of any medical facts, maybe just the 'placebo' effect is a good thing? it's better than the alternative, i have seen the alternative, where someone feels there is no hope and all is only a matter of time, and if i could of made any of there time here more hopefull, then i would have, so keep doing what your doing, giving your mum hope

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A refreshing comment. Thanks for your kind words.

m420p said:

Not to mention if you know the story of Rick Simpson. He actually got raided and was facing charges at around the time this became public so it sort of makes you wonder if they didn't market it as a Cancer Cure to keep him out of jail, because it worked and he got no charges brought against him even though they took all his growing equipment. It just seems fishy to me. Any thoughts?

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Its illegal, so they just "marketed" it as a cancer cure to keep him out of jail.. To me thats saying.. The "cure" doesn't work and was only ever made public to keep someone out of jail, because of the plants illegality..

Im suppose to read all your posts.. But you dont need to read all of mine.. Makes sense

x iGrow x said:

Its illegal, so they just "marketed" it as a cancer cure to keep him out of jail.. To me thats saying.. The "cure" doesn't work and was only ever made public to keep someone out of jail, because of the plants illegality..

Im suppose to read all your posts.. But you dont need to read all of mine.. Makes sense

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"It just seems fishy" but that must mean "To me thats saying.. The "cure" doesn't work and was only ever made public to keep someone out of jail, because of the plants illegality.."

what you just said is ridiculous really... these are words on a computer, you can take them how you want them but to take that comment that way is a joke... and again if you would have read the rest of my posts you would know I don't doubt that Simpson Oil has medicinal purposes and does get completely rid of some cancer such as skin cancer, but to say it "cures cancer" when I have seen cases where it has done absolutely nothing, seems like he took advantage of Marijuana's medicinal use to keep him out of jail... wow you are so off base.

And when you say I "totally discredit something based off the fact that it is illegal is ridiculous.." when in no way in hell I said that or even insinuated that no matter how you look at it, why would I bother listening to the rest of your BS....

Oh, and BTW, I am a LEGAL medical marijuana caregiver, don't even bother with that federal BS, Feds won't touch me or anyone following their states laws and not selling it illegally....

It can't hurt. The idea is you build up a high enough concentration in your system to where it gets to the cancer, they're also used for treatment of pain. At a minimum they would reduce stress and take away pain, which may influence how your body reacts or help you keep your immune system up. Being stressed has a toll on the body, how you sleep, everything about the whole situation.

I use some ISO extract topically for nerve pain along with hash butter and it replaces oxycodone for me. As far as cannabis for treating neuropathic pain there's "evidence" according to pubmed: http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/15578967

Currently there is growing amount of evidence to suggest that the psychoactive ingredient in cannabis and individual cannabinoids may be effective in alleviating neuropathic pain and hyperalgesia. Evidence suggests that cannabinoids may prove useful in pain modulation by inhibiting neuronal transmission in pain pathways. Considering the pronounced antinociceptive effects produced by cannabinoids, they may be a promising therapeutic approach for the clinical management of trigeminal neuralgia.

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So I believe if it is able to get into your pain receptors there's no reason it's not also getting to the cancer/your whole body. Problem is it takes a lot of herb...

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Experimental evidence accumulated during the last decade supports that cannabinoids, the active components of Cannabis sativa and their derivatives, possess anticancer activity. Thus, these compounds exert anti-proliferative, pro-apoptotic, anti-migratory and anti-invasive actions in a wide spectrum of cancer cells in culture. Moreover, tumor growth, angiogenesis and metastasis are hampered by cannabinoids in xenograft-based and genetically-engineered mouse models of cancer. This review summarizes our current knowledge on the anti-tumor potential of cannabinoids in breast cancer, which suggests that cannabinoid-based medicines may be useful for the treatment of most breast tumor subtypes. http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/22776349

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In recent years, cannabinoids (the active components of Cannabis sativa) and their derivatives have received considerable interest due to findings that they can affect the viability and invasiveness of a variety of different cancer cells. Moreover, in addition to their inhibitory effects on tumor growth and migration, angiogenesis and metastasis, the ability of these compounds to induce different pathways of cell death has been highlighted. Here, we review the most recent results generating interest in the field of death mechanisms induced by cannabinoids in cancer cells. In particular, we analyze the pathways triggered by cannabinoids to induce apoptosis or autophagy and investigate the interplay between the two processes. Overall, the results reported here suggest that the exploration of molecular mechanisms induced by cannabinoids in cancer cells can contribute to the development of safe and effective treatments in cancer therapy. http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/22614735

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tumorhead said:

It can't hurt. The idea is you build up a high enough concentration in your system to where it gets to the cancer, they're also used for treatment of pain. At a minimum they would reduce stress and take away pain, which may influence how your body reacts or help you keep your immune system up. Being stressed has a toll on the body, how you sleep, everything about the whole situation.

I use some ISO extract topically for nerve pain along with hash butter and it replaces oxycodone for me. As far as cannabis for treating neuropathic pain there's "evidence" according to pubmed: http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/15578967
So I believe if it is able to get into your pain receptors there's no reason it's not also getting to the cancer/your whole body. Problem is it takes a lot of herb...

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"Overall, the results reported here suggest that the exploration of molecular mechanisms induced by cannabinoids in cancer cells can contribute to the development of safe and effective TREATMENTS in cancer therapy."

I rest my case, thanks for your comment.

m420p said:

"It just seems fishy" but that must mean "To me thats saying.. The "cure" doesn't work and was only ever made public to keep someone out of jail, because of the plants illegality.."

what you just said is ridiculous really... these are words on a computer, you can take them how you want them but to take that comment that way is a joke... and again if you would have read the rest of my posts you would know I don't doubt that Simpson Oil has medicinal purposes and does get completely rid of some cancer such as skin cancer, but to say it "cures cancer" when I have seen cases where it has done absolutely nothing, seems like he took advantage of Marijuana's medicinal use to keep him out of jail... wow you are so off base.

And when you say I "totally discredit something based off the fact that it is illegal is ridiculous.." when in no way in hell I said that or even insinuated that no matter how you look at it, why would I bother listening to the rest of your BS....

Oh, and BTW, I am a LEGAL medical marijuana caregiver, don't even bother with that federal BS, Feds won't touch me or anyone following their states laws and not selling it illegally....

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Our opinions obviously differ.. I gave my opinion and you can't even bother to read it.. Even though I read most of the 3 pages of your nonsensical close-minded observations.. Clearly your close minded and somewhat set in your ways..

x iGrow x said:

Our opinions obviously differ.. I gave my opinion and you can't even bother to read it.. Even though I read most of the 3 pages of your nonsensical close-minded observations.. Clearly your close minded and somewhat set in your ways..

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Please enlighten my on what exactly I am so close minded on and what exactly I am set in my ways. I made this thread to discuss why they call it a "cure" when in fact I have seen it not work for someone.

I have CLEARLY stated that I believe marijuana has medicinal purposes and that I believe it does in fact kill certain cancer cells and help people get rid of certain cancer such as skin cancer.

If by set in your ways you mean that I believe that Simpson Oil is not a cure then you are correct.... I believe it is a TREATMENT...

But to you it seems you strongly believe that I don't believe Marijuana has any medicinal purposes nor that Simpson oil does absolutely nothing for Cancer. Oh wait, you think I "totally discredit something based off the fact that it is illegal is ridiculous.." and after I tell you repeatedly my actual opinion you still think I am completely against the stuff... and you think I am close-minded?... HaBut yet after I "totally discredit something based off the fact that it is illegal is ridiculous.." I am still going to this cancer patients house, using my material to make Simpson oil for them and giving them every last drop and sacrificing my Hash oil I usually make... Get real dude...

Cancer is tough, I've had a few family members who have battled it and one that has gotten the upper hand. Another thing cancer is, is big business. If you have any doubt about that look into The Gerson Therapy (Max Gerson), good info that has been effectively discredited/buried for 50+ years. Stanislaw Burzynski is another good name to familiarize oneself with, also a good documentary made about his battle with big pharma. Harry Hoxey, and the list goes on and on. Rick Simpson's oil is very promising, the wonderful things being unveiled in recent years about THC and other chemicals present in marijuana proves that nature has more answers then we currently know how to ask, and that there is much more to "Chinese Medicine", and other native herblore that have stood the test of time for thousands of years. In the Americas the natives would watch the animals to see what they ate when they were hungry or sick, apart from also being guided by visions and sometimes the plants themselves. From this knowledge comes an easy assumption, if we live closer to the earth, both in mind and body then these things never become a problem in the first place. Our diets nowadays consist of things completely foreign to our last 200,000 years of "evolution". Take a look at cancer rate vs ethnicity from any source and you will begin to see...