I have a lot of joint pain from immune deficiency. I found MJ to help better for chronic pain than most things. I still have pain but it helps. I vape most of the time and find it fast and effective. I use eatables and they help, mostly for bed time. I did find an olive oil rub to help some. I've not found tinctures to be effective as of yet but I keep trying. Its no magic cure for me but its the most effective alternative I have.