Saying it will increase yields or do anything beneficial is even more Wrong. <3There are plenty of journals available that show heavy defoliation increases yields. Most are SOG grows.
Saying that defoliating during flower will decrease yields is flat out wrong info.
...so you are in the cycle? out of the cycle? You troll for trolls a lot.Flush not flush, defoliate or not defoliate, h2o or bene's..
These threads are funny... everyone chimes in trolling each others reasoning and methods, yet some of us have figured out a long time ago...
you ready for this...
"Do what works for YOU!"
I mean try it, does it work? No? Yes? I mean simple common sense would tell you that you want to grow the best medicine that you can and this is done by what works for YOU!
I love just chiming in now, and laughing at all these guys just arguing for threads on end, just to repeat the cycle in a few weeks when another newbie doesn't search for an answer and posts this same question. I am stoned and I still see the sad cycle so many here are caught in, just be patient you will finally stop and laugh at these misguided fools too.
I usually try things out for myself and takes learned info with a grain of salt. Other growers tell me I am foolish to grow in soil. But it works for me. I use HPS for flowering but supplement it with fluorescent for a true daylight effect (bright sun overhead, blue sky all around). People disagree with that. It's my grow, and I have great success. I share my own learned experience. Maybe I can help someone else with my info. Am i right? Maybe, maybe not. It works for me.Flush not flush, defoliate or not defoliate, h2o or bene's..
"Do what works for YOU!"
I am stoned and I still see the sad cycle so many here are caught in, just be patient you will finally stop and laugh at these misguided fools too.
I usually try things out for myself and takes learned info with a grain of salt. Other growers tell me I am foolish to grow in soil. But it works for me. I use HPS for flowering but supplement it with fluorescent for a true daylight effect (bright sun overhead, blue sky all around). People disagree with that. It's my grow, and I have great success. I share my own learned experience. Maybe I can help someone else with my info. Am i right? Maybe, maybe not. It works for me.
What really pisses me off is all of these people who talk like an expert because they "heard it somewhere". Especially people who never grew anything in their life. I would hope that people would use RIU as a tool as I do. I do what I believe is beneficial for MY grow, in MY grow rooms. It may not work for someone else. There is no real "one right way" to do things, just lots of alternatives.
So, BigBuddahCheese I agree with you. I do what works best for me. I share my results in hopes of someone else learning from my success and my mistakes.
You should read that one. It was pretty accurate. I try to help everyone I can. I am college educated and I have a masters from the school of hard knocks also. I have found Jesus and I appreciate your concern for my salvation. That is about the only thing more important than teaching someone to grow. I just wanted to point out that this is a grow forum and many of us are here to learn to be better growers. You refer to us as misguided fools for discussing different techniques, that is clearly trolling and spreading hate.Everyone should do what works for them. Unfortunately many see these journals, believe the nutrient company hype.. when really the plants just need few basic things to be happy and healthy. Keep it simple try and experiment and keep notes.
I see "gladstoned" the troll chimed in as I have him ignored I can't see what he has to say but I am sure it something sarcastic and condescending (not sure he has over a GED so words like 'condescending' you people here might have to help him with. Anyway, he should concentrate all his hate into doing something positive in his life, yet he likes to "try" to make everyone as miserable as him. Sad. I one hopes he finds jesus.
The only misguided fools, are those with closed minds. Does removing fan leaves help? Maybe. Depends on the strain and conditions. I remove lower fan leaves pretty aggressively. They generally feed the root growth (closest sink) and the roots are done growing late in flower. Will it help with your strain..don't know..experiment. Do one plant, leave the rest alone.You should read that one. It was pretty accurate. I try to help everyone I can. I am college educated and I have a masters from the school of hard knocks also. I have found Jesus and I appreciate your concern for my salvation. That is about the only thing more important than teaching someone to grow. I just wanted to point out that this is a grow forum and many of us are here to learn to be better growers. You refer to us as misguided fools for discussing different techniques, that is clearly trolling and spreading hate.
I grow good quality nugs but I am also always learning. Always keep learning is the second rule in my grow room right behind never tell anyone.No offence but this too is my pet-peeve. I hate 80% of care givers methods with a passion. The part where someone who is still learning to grow, is growing for other people. Boggles my mind.
Anywho, yes.. do not cut the leaves please.
Oh I am sorry who the fuck made you the forum nazi.Sorry it just cracks me up when someone has nothing to offer the conversation. Go away troll.
wow....in the thirty or so years ive been growing ive never heard this from any good growers...please,enlighten me...???u get a better yield,approx 20-25%
if u trim most the fans at 12/12 time,
(assuming a vigorous plant)
try it yourself, u may be surprised
cutting off all the fan leaves is not a "new thing"...ive seen perfectly fine crops ruined by noobs with an inherant need to interact with thier plants...often resulting in loss of the fan leaves..any one whome claims to get bigger buds by removing the fan leaves has not had the grow time in to no the difference.Great idea. Nothing wrong with trying new things and learning. It's how we all get better.
Sorry you mis understood me. If I haven't tried cutting off all the fan leaves, then during one crop I suddenly do, that is me trying something new.cutting off all the fan leaves is not a "new thing"...ive seen perfectly fine crops ruined by noobs with an inherant need to interact with thier plants...often resulting in loss of the fan leaves..any one whome claims to get bigger buds by removing the fan leaves has not had the grow time in to no the difference.
I took the time to read this entire thread, I only remove leaves that are yellowing/dying as they serve no purpose other than to hold surface moisture and invite mold. At the beginning of flower I aggressively trim "sucker branches" as they will sap energy from the main colas that will eventually develop.Sorry it just cracks me up when someone says they are a caregiver.