REMO CHEMO

The good news is little Remo is rebounded and growing like crazy, these are super healthy, big growing plants I think they have potential..!

I didn't grab a picture of the little remo but heres the bigger remo chemo, just transplanted half hour ago, she's been in a 6-inch pot since 3/24, trying to hold her back longer for space but she wants to grow!

6 days later she likes the fox farm I'm watering in some mykos, this strain wants to grow..! Even the runt that hit the hot spot is starting to grow like crazy!



She's starting to Branch some, I'm going to get some cuts from her..!

Edit to add that I am holding back everything including the remos in my veg tent, til space in flower. Very Cold Spring got some slow plants finishing up, hopefully they'll be done soon, at least some will

So I'll come back and do a smoke report if I keep the plant the reason I'm ending this now is because remote chemo can't grow well in my environment

I had had it way in the back and wasn't paying much attention to it this morning I found half a dozen large lower fan leaves with the first signs of septoria

Not Cal or mag, I've dealt with septoria for a while, I live between a saltwater Marsh and the Atlantic Ocean so humidities an issue to begin with but it's not usually this early that the septoria becomes a concern?

I don't have my room sealed yet, don't even have my AC in the window, figured I'd have two or three more weeks yet

Anyway the Remo chemo is a very stretchy, very heavy feeder. I would even say lanky or sparse, but in fairness I didn't spend any time training it or even doing much more than topping it a couple times

One more spot of septoria and it's getting chopped. I have healthy, strong plants waiting to take its place

If I update with a smoke report that means it made it, but I would say 80% or so chance that it's not going to make it (no weak plants)

Chef420 said:

I’m on day 17 flower with one. She likes to stretch and all the action is up top, not much going on below. Therefore I suggest topping early and often. Here’s what I mean if you can see.

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Yes really stretchy plant I was wondering how yours did?

This plant is showing signs of septoria, I've been dealing with it for 3 years I lived between a marsh and an ocean and it's been cold and damp here almost continually this spring so I guess I shouldn't be surprised

Today I'm sealing my room putting the air conditioner in I already have the dehumidifier in but it's tough to keep the humidity low when it's in the upper 80% outside and raining day upon day!

On another thread I posted a picture of it and immediately somebody said looks like calcium or this and that and it does, and I spent months chasing it while everything died around me, still thinking it was some kind of a nutrient issue, but it wasn't ..and it's not now.

But instead of culling the plant I gave it a recommended dose of calcium so we'll see what happens, just for experiment.

If it starts spreading to the other plants which up until this point were not affected At All by septoria last season, because of the sealed room then it's time to say goodbye to Remo ?

Actually I do see it on an LA OG affie I'm hoping things get better when I seal the room (everything's been supplemented with calimagic today at 5 ml / gallon, but it's not calcium)

• I want to emphasize that some of the plants growing in my garden are clones I've been running for around a year and they have never been affected by septoria or any type of issue previously and there on exactly the same nutrients that they've been on since I've been growing them but we'll go slowly and show you that septoria looks exactly like a cal and/or mag (or other deficiency?) at least initially

* the little white spots are baking soda spray

Here's an la og affie by CC already showing septoria. this is I don't know how many generations, but there's not been one problem with this strain, and it's on the same exact nutrient regimen that all its predecessors were on as well, but here is an example of septoria affecting it

All leaves like that are as good as dead. even when I seal my growing environment today it's not going to help these leaves, and this is an extremely leafy strain

Do you do an ipm?
Lanky stretchy all true but she is pretty potent. Flowers are pretty dense so she yielded ok but I’d veg her longer and top early and often.

Glad to hear it I thought it would be fairly strong which is why I wanted to give it a shot!

Not sure what ipm is?

I've got a clone or two from it so even if I cull the plant I'ma keep it in veg for a while and try it in the fall perhaps

Beachwalker said:

Here's an la og affie by CC already showing septoria. this is I don't know how many generations, but there's not been one problem with this strain, and it's on the same exact nutrient regimen that all its predecessors were on as well, but here is an example of septoria affecting itView attachment 4149797

All leaves like that are as good as dead. even when I seal my growing environment today it's not going to help these leaves, and this is an extremely leafy strain

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hey@middlerguerrilla does that look like leaf spot to u?

The majority of my Bloom tent will be harvested in the next week or so and what's left in there is just starting to bloom,including the remo

I have clones of everything so I might just take everything down, maintain mothers over the summer which would be very convenient and then start with these same strains (and some others) in the fall

I'll seal room today but if septoria's advanced I've got nothing to lose to be honest, all I'll miss is a few months of growing but I need the break anyway, would like to do some traveling for more than just overnight, would be nice too get the hell outta Dodge for a change!?

I'm starting all purple plants this fall anyway so I can use the New England cold to really bring their colors out, so we'll see what happens going forward ?

Here's a few more pics

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hey@middlerguerrilla does that look like leaf spot to u?

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Beachwalker said:

Here's a few more pics

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ya that top pic is what I call black spot 100% its got the classic halo that's crazy indoor do u have lots of wild rose they grow like crazy along the coast up here! copper will work on that u caught it pretty early

thumper60 said:

ya that top pic is what I call black spot 100% its got the classic halo that's crazy indoor do u have lots of wild rose they grow like crazy along the coast up here! copper will work on that u caught it pretty early

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Exactly! I can see you've dealt with it too it's some nasty shit!

.. that single little black spot is how it starts and was why I went looking for it, and sure enough there it was

*What is the whole name of the copper spray? And is it safe for use on buds?

I have a sulfur burner and now that I'm locking down the environment in my room I feel that I will be on top of it this time I managed to eradicate it twice before but I really got caught off-guard this early in the year, was not expecting it

The schedule I'm on is burn, spray, burn on intermittent days, I hate to use neem oil that's nasty stuff I'll see how the burning and the baking soda does before I mix up any of that crap

now that I think of all the shity weather we've had and are still having here on the New England coast I guess I should have been watching for it to be honest

Beachwalker said:

Exactly! I can see you've dealt with it too it's some nasty shit!

.. that single little black spot is how its it starts and was why I went looking for it, and sure enough there it was

*What is the whole name of the copper spray? And is it safe for use on buds?

I have a sulfur burner and now that I'm locking down the environment in my room I feel that I will be on top of it this time I managed to eradicate it twice before but I really got caught off-guard this early in the year, was not expecting it

The schedule I'm on is burn, spray, burn on intermittent days, I hate to use neem oil that's nasty stuff I'll see how the burning and the baking soda does before I mix up any of that crap

now that I think of all the shity weather we've had and are still having here on the New England coast I guess I should have been watching for it to be honest

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ya I have tried greencure,seranade,neem the only thing that helped for me is copper fungicide never used it indoor but its doesn't get into the plant just the surface so it does wash off,it has saved my ass many times out in the swamps but bonide makes agood one approved for organic gardening

Great thanks I'll check it out if what I'm doing doesn't knock it out, last year I burned three or four times and that stopped it cold, then once a week for about a month and it never came back

I locked down my environment with inkbirds, dehuey ac, and the like and I'm going to give it a run this time too.

I also use 2 nine inch high velocity fans on the tent floor during dark, one is on 24/7, and I run my grow dry as much as possible too, both of these help quite a bit

I'm going to do this part of the journal about it because honestly there's not much info on the indoor version of septoria, maybe I can do something here about it because this is year 3 dealing with it and I knocked it out twice before ?

..And if not I'm going to give the hell up quick and do some traveling this summer LOL within a couple weeks I'll know thanks again for the info!

Beachwalker said:

Great thanks I'll check it out if what I'm doing doesn't knock it out, last year I burned three or four times and that stopped it cold, then once a week for about a month and it never came back

I locked down my environment with inkbirds, dehuey ac, and the like and I'm going to give it a run this time too

I'm going to do this part of the journal about it because honestly there's not much info on the indoor version of septoria, maybe I can do something here about it because this is year 3 dealing with it and I knocked it out twice before ?

And if not I'm going to give the hell up quick and do some traveling this summer LOL within a couple weeks I'll know thanks again for the info!

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ya its just spores blowing in the wind looking for a nice damp leaf to land,u should be able to stop it with low rh when I have dry summer-fall I don't c it at all some yrs,it needs high rh to bloom, also some strains r more prone to getting it,been fighting this shit most of my life

Beachwalker said:

I'm starting to consider something other than ffof for the initial soil start because I suspect there could well be hot spots here and there and it doesn't take much to do in a seedling

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I figured out through actually losing a couple of seedlings not to use FFOF by itself, especially not to start. I sprout in really small biodegradable cups with Black Gold organic - .1—.1—.1. Then I transplant to solo cups with 2:1 BG:FF in solo cups, then 1:1 to grow out in a bigger pot.

That's the only thing I saw in your thread that I could offer any insight on and I wanted to sub anyway. Awesome grow!

IPM integrated pest management.
Weekly treatments as a preventative usually rotating products. I use spinosad, method 1pps, neem oil, dr bronners peppermint.

So 77% humidity all day for at least 24 hours, now it stopped raining and it went up to 87% go figure? My little humidifier,, eh.. I have to get another one or a bigger one cuz its barely keeping it in the mid to low 60s..

..sprayed the two affected plants again, everything else seems fine so far, everything's healthy too

.. burning sulfur for an hour in the morning before lights out

Nice play by play on the problem solve, thanks for posting.

Zero_OS said:

Nice play by play on the problem solve, thanks for posting.

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Hey buddy thanks for stopping by yep going to beat it again, the Little D-Huey that I use in my drying room just isn't cutting it in my five by five tent. I suppose the next step is a significant upgrade, but I don't know what's going to keep 87% humidity below 60?

Or else I'm just going to keep the clones I have and get the hell out of here and travel some this summer, still haven't decided

Taking the tops tomorrow, within 2 weeks everything will be hanging and then I'll decide what to do, a lot of it's going to depend on how the new flowering plants (remo chemo and LA OG affie) showing the septoria do with the sulfur burning & baking soda treatment?! if I have to start using chemicals forget about it, I won't even use neem oil that nasty shit, I'm still cleaning it off of things from last year if it comes to that I'll just stop for the summer and just keep clones bubbling. Neem oil in flower ruins the bud you might as well just throw it right in the hash bucket