really need help selecting first seeds

qwizoking

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i can get one strain and only. i have a perpetual sog. im wanting to buy my first seeds but have no idea who or what. ive looked hard at tga but everytime i look into a strain i hear about herms. ive never had hermie issues and definately dont want that, im too broke for cali conn etc, under 50 bucks please:)....so can anyone tell me a reliably frosty plant that finishes in 8 weeks or so without bisexual tendencies? also a slight stretch in flowering good for my sog? ....oh and i love the landrace sativas im currently growing so a real nice indica thats vigorous anda bit of stretch i dont like to veg
 

Texas(THC)

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Just got a pack of blue og from g13 labs for around that price
It is a short indica plant that I planned on sog or scrogging

Another I wanted to purchase was their Cinderella 99 which is supposed to be a fast and vigurous strain

I love tga genetics but they only do reg seeds, which may be a problem for you if your only got enough for a pack

Other breeders I would reccomend on the cheaper side would be world of seeds they have a good selection of landraces too
 

qwizoking

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but i havent been able to find much about it, i think its kinda new. i want a strain proven to be potent as i wont be ordering seeds again for a long time. i really need a long term keeper. got any strains you keep runnin?
 

Omgwtfbbq Indicaman

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What ever you do, DO NOT get tga subcool seeds as a first grow, they tend to be unstable(multiple phenotypes) and some strains have high tendency to herm(ace of spades, plushberry) and are not the highest yielding strains unless you choose to grow the Cheesequake, dairy queen, Kaboom or Qrazy train. he discontinued the agent orange which was his best yielder and probably one of his top 5 strains.


if i were you, i would get some killerskunk from Underground originals, its a bit pricey at around 90 a pack but they have everything a new grower WANTS in a strain: High Vigor, High yield, High Potency, High smell, High flavor, very fruity and funky and stable. one of the best indica strains i've grown ever, takes 60 days to finish or 9 weeks. some plants can be chopped at 8 weeks.
 

qwizoking

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i thought about nl, hows the potency though? im being overly picky as it will likely be the only time i order seeds. ive been looking at strains for months,lol i think my very first post on this site was basically this same question. then i was told emerald triangle and g13 pineapple express. i dont think pe will be powerfull enough. idk. but ive heard northern lights is low odor. i have perfect sativas one extremly warm and pshychedlic,another like toking on an adrenaline rush, so i want something STANKY with a knockout stone very flavorful. i think c99 and nl#5 are a little to sativa ish. thoughts?
 

Omgwtfbbq Indicaman

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i hear newbie growers complain time and again about how they wish they kept a certain phenotype of a poly-hybrid(like what tga offers) because they didn't smoke the stuff and it happened to be better than the heavy yielding plant they kept. so stay away from tga untill you got a stable grow environment and a few notches on your belt. this goes with any breeder who makes hybrids. whenever you buy seeds it is a gamble, if you intend on saving some cash for better grow equipment then i would suggest growing some stuff from Nirvana, their- Ice, bubblelicious, Chrystal, and white castle are all quality strains and somewhat stable(ice is a 4way hybrid of widow shiva, super skunk and northern lights so it has a few phenotypes but most are strong and smelly).
 

qwizoking

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i have a fairly stable grow, ive been growing about 10 years working with my sativas. yea thats one of the reasons i keep going back to tga, i heard the blackberry is whats causing the herms in aos and plushberry, i dont mind weeding out moms as long as i do end up with a keeper.ill go look at those right quick
 

Omgwtfbbq Indicaman

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i thought about nl, hows the potency though? im being overly picky as it will likely be the only time i order seeds. ive been looking at strains for months,lol i think my very first post on this site was basically this same question. then i was told emerald triangle and g13 pineapple express. i dont think pe will be powerfull enough. idk. but ive heard northern lights is low odor. i have perfect sativas one extremly warm and pshychedlic,another like toking on an adrenaline rush, so i want something STANKY with a knockout stone very flavorful. i think c99 and nl#5 are a little to sativa ish. thoughts?
C99 is very sativa but doesn't grow like it smokes and it is pure quality, definitely a legendary strain but it doesn't yield much and it smells fruity like mangos and pineapple. the Northern lights is another legendary strain known for its sativa balanced with indica effects, high yield and shorter stature. it is potent, both of those strains are famouse for their strength. the G13 PE is strong, a good yielding strain as well if you get a good plant,

as you stated you wanted a good beginner strain and one not too sativa? again i recommend Killerskunk by underground originals (at the attitude seedbank) as it is very fast growing, from seeding throughout flowering the plant just wants to live, it doesn't suck up too much water nor does it need lots of nutrients. it responds very well to screen of green(scrog) or see of green growing. there are 2 phenotypes, the most common being that of the smellyberry(shorter big fat cola's about the size of a beer can) and a slightly taller "blues" phenotype with very similar bud structure and a berryish skunky smell. both are potent, both smoke very strong and yield well. the vigor of the strain is above most i have grown(better than northern lights and about as good as super skunk) and the quality is up there with the best indica strains i've grown. its effects are about 70% indica dominant with very strong body high but this strain will not put you to sleep if you want to work, it gets me high for about 2 hrs.


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Thundercat

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Buy female seeds C99 I have been running a single cola SOG for 4 years, and recently started harvesting my C99, and it is perfect for this type of grow, and is amazing smoke! There are pics in my thread in my sig line a couple pages back of what the colas and finished buds look like. I actually just did a seed order today, and ordered another pack of them just to have them. I currently have one seed left, and have grown out 2(gave one to a friend), one pheno is PERFECT for SOG, with a plant that is just one tall cola, and very little branching. The other pheno seems like its going to be good, but just a little more inclined to branch. I can't speak more highly of it, and after watching atleast 7 different C99 grows lately it seems to be a VERY stable strain with very consistent results!
 

Omgwtfbbq Indicaman

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Buy female seeds C99 I have been running a single cola SOG for 4 years, and recently started harvesting my C99, and it is perfect for this type of grow, and is amazing smoke! There are pics in my thread in my sig line a couple pages back of what the colas and finished buds look like. I actually just did a seed order today, and ordered another pack of them just to have them. I currently have one seed left, and have grown out 2(gave one to a friend), one pheno is PERFECT for SOG, with a plant that is just one tall cola, and very little branching. The other pheno seems like its going to be good, but just a little more inclined to branch. I can't speak more highly of it, and after watching atleast 7 different C99 grows lately it seems to be a VERY stable strain with very consistent results!
yep, the plant has some of the best inbreeding done in the cannabis world, really well selected traits. smell is unique and the hybrids usually turn out fantastic.
 

qwizoking

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really appreciate all the help but again i have spectacular sativas, i believe c99 is a warm trippy sativa in an indicas body? nl and skunk also being sativa influenced. i want a real stanky indica with a powerful knockout stone, opposite my sativas. they start to go cloudy around 16 weeks so i figure an 8 week indica would fit in my schedule nicely...i will look into the c99 though, eventually i would like to breed with my plants to shorten the flowering time..but im pretty new at all this. ive been growing the same plants outdoors for years so im finally able to switch things up inside
 

Omgwtfbbq Indicaman

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knockout stone? try anesthesia or herijuana from sanniesshop.com, Original misty from homegrown fantaseeds, Hindu kush or nirvana's Aurora indica, the aurora is very narcotic.
 

qwizoking

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alright so i have a couple ideas, im ordering today so if someone else has any last suggestions. favorite stinky indicas unlikely to herm
 

Vmino

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Try California Hashplant from Dinafem. I know it doesn't really make sense to go to a european breeder to get a strain called "California" Hashplant, but its quite nice, quick to flower and I really enjoyed the smoke, classic indica high and plant structure. As for being beginner friendly well, the guy that grew it has less experience then you, or at least has been doing it for less time than you. European breeders generally speaking are more focused on Indicas, and Autos, most of the people that grow here are indoors and just want high yields.
 

qwizoking

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lol ok, ive never heard of them? are they on the tude..well see my main focus is an amazing indica to add to my stable, but all the ones i seem to look into have issues. it seems genetics with blueberry,og kush, trainwreck etc herm. im looking first for good genetics, i have powerful tasty sativas that dont herm, naturally that would mess up my perpetual grow. so first its stability which i havent been able to find, then its potency,then the mouthwatering flavors, then i would prefer something with a slight stretch because my veg/cloning room is the same thing....so far i really havent gotten anything that fits my decription, maybe ill try dna's kushberry and hope for a non herm. its got a 2x stretch and supposed to be one of their most potent strains
 

qwizoking

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yea i have looked at hashplant maily cause it was the other half of one g13 labs seeds i was looking at.. have you actually grown it and enjoyed it? added it to your stash of mommas?
 

Vmino

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I'm actually relatively new to growing myself and am not really doing it perpetually, so no mommas for me :(, if stability is key then try something thats been around for a while, maybe just some old fashioned white widow? I mean that shit has been around so long its got to be stable by now. I have actually only had 1 grow so far (cropped out like 2 weeks agobongsmilie) and I had the great white shark from green house, a lot of people seem to dislike green house here but honestly I can't complain. The plant was a bit stretchy and had pretty thin/small buds, a lot of them though. Could be caused by lack of experience and technique (just in soil and I only lst'd and not enough at that). Yea if you want stable though definetly look into some old school strains, none of this new age " hybrids of hybrids of hybrids" type shit lol
 

brimck325

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i think sog has 1 offering at cannazon. i don't have any hands on with em, but hear really good things from others.
 
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