Ready yet? Or already overdue?

Hey guys,

I've been growing some Everest Bud over the past months and since it's my first ever grow I'm not sure when to harvest. Most (all) pistils aren't white anymore, but I don't know about the trichomes yet. Also the buds seem kind of small to me.( The magnifying glass doesn't arrive until Monday).
Can you see from the pics if they're not ready,ready or even overdue?
Thanks a lot

It's hard to tell from the pics as to exactly where you are, but id say you are definitely within the window.

I'd say if your weather is going to be at all cool and wet coming up that you should pull them to be safe. From what I can see they look pretty mature.

hard to tell from pics. what i can see says close but not yet. the haze of trichs i can see on sugar leaves don't have a reddish tinge, if they haven't turned yet, the bud trichs surely haven't

But is the strain supposed to produce amber?
That is a rare trait. Milky is what you want. When you start seeing a bunch of amber, you are already losing potency.

thats true, but i said leaf trichs, which to my experience, mature several days before calyx trichs, maybe as much as a week.
i don't think amber is a "rare" trait, but there are strains that produce a lot less of them than others, just a general rule of thumb i use when i don't have a lot else to work with

i know its a personal preference, but i like to wait till i see about 10% amber, as long as its a strain that produces them (although i've only grown one strain so far that doesn't, and i'm not sure about that, may have just been a very slow maturer). my logic is this. plants grow new trichs till they die, so you're always going to see a few clears, and after a certain point, you're always going to see milky trichs. 10 % amber allows for full maturity in my opinion, you should have the highest number of milky and the lowest number of clear trichs at that point

Roger A. Shrubber said:

thats true, but i said leaf trichs, which to my experience, mature several days before calyx trichs, maybe as much as a week.
i don't think amber is a "rare" trait, but there are strains that produce a lot less of them than others, just a general rule of thumb i use when i don't have a lot else to work with

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Sorry, misread. I agree, leaves with amber tell me it's ready.
I think it is actually rare, and satIva only. The amber is present from seedling, and I believe they are amber through their life, with differing stages of potency (like milky types). Not all trics on those are amber though. I have some seedlings about 5-6 days old, will see how soon they show. I'm sure you've read about the amber trait, and the psychoactivity of amber.

http://growhappyplants.com/look.html
Amber is bad?

we're talking about two different effects or traits, there are strains that have darker "amber" trichs their whole life, and they just get slightly darker as they age.
most strains that i have grown will start with clear trichomes, that turn milky as they mature, then turn brown when they start to get past their prime. i call that amber out of habit, sorry for any confusion, so reread what i posted and substitue brown for amber

I believe that when 50%+ milky, production is slower than degradation.
There's a bit of science behind it.

Also though at that poit there are brown/amber present

again, just from my personal observations, plants don't die when you chop them, it can take up to two or three days for metabolic action to stop. if you cut at 10% brown, by the time they're dried and cured that may have climbed to as high as 20-25%

GardenGnome83 said:

I believe that when 50%+ milky, production is slower than degradation.
There's a bit of science behind it.

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gotta go to work, but i'd be interested to read some of that science if you can provide a link or two

Roger A. Shrubber said:

again, just from my personal observations, plants don't die when you chop them, it can take up to two or three days for metabolic action to stop. if you cut at 10% brown, by the time they're dried and cured that may have climbed to as high as 20-25%

gotta go to work, but i'd be interested to read some of that science if you can provide a link or two

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Most definitely.
I actually kill the roots before I chop, because it goes through some things...

Looks good to me

GardenGnome83 said:

Most definitely.
I actually kill the roots before I chop, because it goes through some things...

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i think i'm going to try the root boil myself, when this white widow is ready. i'm about as impatient as a person can be and not melt. if it cuts a week off the dry/cure process, i like it already,

Roger A. Shrubber said:

i think i'm going to try the root boil myself, when this white widow is ready. i'm about as impatient as a person can be and not melt. if it cuts a week off the dry/cure process, i like it already,

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It makes total sense, when you look at it from a scientific point of view.