Again, life in itself might be the miracle. Who knows. Where are all the other intelligent aliens that science says must be out there? These are things that should give anybody a little doubt instead of brushing it off because you personally have not seen a miracle as you define it.
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Again, life in itself might be the miracle. Who knows. Where are all the other intelligent aliens that science says must be out there? These are things that should give anybody a little doubt instead of brushing it off because you personally have not seen a miracle as you define it.
hotrodharley
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What a God. He lets scumbags live who don’t care about Him or little sonny Jesus while devout followers die screaming in pain. You can have my share of that shit.
hotrodharley
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What other issues in other peoples lives do you believe you have a right to influence or ban?
Ban none, influence any.
edit: and again, I never said I wanted to ban abortion. You guys just don't listen
hotrodharley
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Well that certainly sounds like a fine god to dedicate ones life and resources too.
hotrodharley
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I’m happy for those folks and invite them to keep it to themselves when they try to apply their moralistic values in the political arena.
Lucky Luke
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Abortion doesn't kill a baby. People kill people, babies included everyday, mostly state funded using professional troops with expensive equipment.
Society is not an ideal. It will never be an ideal. But humans forget we are just another animal, we are nothing special. Most of us are just like solder ants and worker bees- doing what we are told by the luckier few.
Lucky Luke
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Where has science ever said their must be intelligent life out there? I think we might be a bit arrogant to suggest there was no life out there, universe is sooooo large and our solar system would be less than 1% of it, but intelligent life? IDK must be a healthy maybe. What is their definition of intelligent?
Would the thousands of UFO sightings by multiple people and or trained aviators both military and civilian be a proof of some kind? Perhaps not as they could be us from another time or place...
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f series
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Just waiting for a president to worry about America first, foreigners later.
Lucky Luke
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America is highly populated by foreigner's. Not a great % are native American, most are European descent. I don't think Trump cares two hoots for such a low % of the population. He cares more for the uneducated white racist. They are easy to fool and swindle. Just not enough votes in Native Americans unfortunately. Imagine if they did get power and sent all the white foreigners folk home? Might make America great again.
Wait so you don't use your values in every interaction you have in your life? Guy you are sounding like a bigot.
You can look at the Drake equation and then the Fermi paradox. Everything says there should be and we should have found them or they should have found us so why not? It could actually be that Earth is the only planet with intelligent life in the cosmos and if that is indeed the case than that is a miracle beyond imagination. And UFOs? Thousands of people have seen the chupacabra as well, is that real? I'm not saying UFOs are not real, just that I take it all with a grain of salt till there is hard evidence.
Every president we have ever had has always cared about America first, your wait is over. Since the WW2 our world plan has always been to make countries in our image and bring them into the fold with trade deals and military force. You can't care about America without caring about foreigners. It's not unthinkable that in a hundred years Americans will be illegally crossing into Central America. The plan is working regardless if we agree with it or not.
hanimmal
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Nobody is advocating killing babies. A wad of sperm and a fertile egg joining, that then go through biological processes to eventually several months later form a viable infant is no more alive than the sperm was when it left the father.
When you trick yourself to thinking people are killing babies it is hard to not see this as evil I get it, but it is in no way reality and I still trust women to decide what to do with their bodies.
Moreover understand this stuff doesn't stop abortions, people will means to go to a different state, or even take a trip to wherever and pay cash for a abortion will still have full access to them. All this conversation does is make it difficult for poor women to have the same choice that their wealthy counterparts have who rely on some federal funded medical treatment for their healthcare.
A viable infant? Like I said, you need to define it that way to suit your stance, I don't. I also don't believe it's evil in the religious sense to abort it, I think it's tragic. What I see is people convincing themselves that something akin to a pimple is being removed and I don't think that is realistic or even a stance we need to take to "win" an argument. Was it Clinton who said it should be legal and rare? Well it's far from rare these days.
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