Randomly sprouted this out door plant not really sure what to expect

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3rd Monkey

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View attachment 4283081 View attachment 4283076 View attachment 4283081 Hi guys I recently found a bunch of seeds in my flower from some decent bud I had and I decided to throw them in a planter, didn’t think it would sprout so well but I have a plant here. I’m not really sure what to expect how big it will get or what I should feed it. Any advice guys?
Depending on your diet and budget, you can feed it diluted urine til you get nutes lol.

Grosses people out but it works quite well.

As far as size, that's all upon how you train it.
 

Lethidox

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really depends on your lighting. i throw mine outside they flower easily from the start with like 4 weeks of veg or less maybe. that is because i don't get a lot of sunlight here. i dont grow regular seeds either but if i recall males grow faster then females. how big really just depends on nutrients, lighting, and space. more or less space and lighting nutrients you can half ass with miracle grow if you have to.

that is if they are photo's of course. if auto's idk never grew auto's don't know much about them. if you have good lighting outside and your strain isn't one that flowers under 18/6 which some have reported then you can veg them for as long as you want but have to flower at least once a year from what i've read with people who keep mother plants. forgot why i guess it has to deal with genetic reasons idk.

if you look up some outdoor grows inground or in pot they can get fairly massive but the amount of lighting is a major key. without good amount of hours on um if they will flower on you for sure. you can supplement lighting if you can. this is the reason why most outdoor growers have less flips sun sets faster as it gets closer to winter so you recieve less hours of sunlight as well as colder temps.
 

Chip Green

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Looks good and healthy right now....What's the total daylight in your zone right now? If it gets less than 14 hours(ish) of light, once it's ready it will begin to flower. You could make a run with that, if you want to invest a little dough...
IF you've got space to sorta hide it if needed, one option would be to get a BIG f'n pot, like 25 gal, and buy enough decent premixed, amended soil, add a bunch of perlite, fill the pot, transplant, and let her rip.....
 

Logan Burke

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While a lot of liquid chemical fertilizers do contain traces of urea (cow urine), I don't think it'd be smart at all to take a piss on your plants. At all. With that being said. The size it gets depends primarily on how much space the roots have to grow, and how well you care for the plant throughout it's life in general. This includes not giving too much ferts (always better to give too little than too much), keeping pests and bugs at bay, and proper watering habits.

*EDIT* Genetics also play a big role in plant size, but being an unknown strain, focus on the factors that you can control.
 

3rd Monkey

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While a lot of liquid chemical fertilizers do contain traces of urea (cow urine), I don't think it'd be smart at all to take a piss on your plants. At all. With that being said. The size it gets depends primarily on how much space the roots have to grow, and how well you care for the plant throughout it's life in general. This includes not giving too much ferts (always better to give too little than too much), keeping pests and bugs at bay, and proper watering habits.

*EDIT* Genetics also play a big role in plant size, but being an unknown strain, focus on the factors that you can control.
I didn't say to piss on it lol. I said diluted. 10/1 ratio with water. Works quite well.
 

Lethidox

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I didn't say to piss on it lol. I said diluted. 10/1 ratio with water. Works quite well.
you can do that but from my experience i wouldn't recommend it. i used to throw gallons of piss on my compost end result; it works as it contains nitrogen and im sure other shit as well but had a bunch of flies swarming it and the smell was awful. i had my compost pile right next to the side walk which is pretty busy people would often cross the street cause the smell was just bad XD. i would dump about 3 gallons of piss on my compost every 3 days.
 

Logan Burke

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You're better off to just buy a cheap 5-10$ bottle of fertilizer, you can get a guaranteed analysis on legit fertilizers anyways. And it will contain a balanced formula of all the nutrients your plants need. Urine does not.
 

3rd Monkey

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you can do that but from my experience i wouldn't recommend it. i used to throw gallons of piss on my compost end result; it works as it contains nitrogen and im sure other shit as well but had a bunch of flies swarming it and the smell was awful. i had my compost pile right next to the side walk which is pretty busy people would often cross the street cause the smell was just bad XD. i would dump about 3 gallons of piss on my compost every 3 days.
For the third time lol, it needs to be diluted. Even on a compost pile. If you compost, you know it shouldn't smell.

Urine fertilizing is highly dependent on your diet, or whoever's diet the urine came from.

I'm not saying it's the best but it absolutely will work. I've been pissing at the base of a juniper that sits right next to the gutter runoff for 20+ years lol. Loves it. It's huge.
 

3rd Monkey

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You're better off to just buy a cheap 5-10$ bottle of fertilizer, you can get a guaranteed analysis on legit fertilizers anyways. And it will contain a balanced formula of all the nutrients your plants need. Urine does not.
Hell, ever hear of a nitre bed? That's how you make nitrates for black powder and fertilizers. Straw and piss lol.
 

Lethidox

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yea fertilizers for starting out isn't super expensive. you dont need to buy the higher end shit like me ( not really higher end imo but expensive ) i run AN line currently besides about 4 of the products spent about $500 total. do i regret it? somewhat but i like testing products. used to run fox farm trio and i personally dont like it but many have luck with it. GH is fairly cheap as well. to me the biggest contributors are all the basic ones like lighting, growing skills, etc..

it's like with cooking tbh or driving. you can buy the fanciest cuts of meats and best quality produce you can afford but if you don't know how to properly cook it's useless your food won't be as amazing as someone who uses lesser quality and knows what they are doing. same with driving. i see a lot of people in my state driving expensive cars like ferarri's or porsche yet they don't know how to drive.
 

Lethidox

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For the third time lol, it needs to be diluted. Even on a compost pile. If you compost, you know it shouldn't smell.

Urine fertilizing is highly dependent on your diet, or whoever's diet the urine came from.

I'm not saying it's the best but it absolutely will work. I've been pissing at the base of a juniper that sits right next to the gutter runoff for 20+ years lol. Loves it. It's huge.
yea i know it needs to be diluted lol i was just speaking from my experience as i didn't dilute mine but that is the only experience i had with using piss in the garden. many people use it for gardening for fertilizing but not me. that is how i learned about using it.

i think you can use coffee grounds as well aren't they high in nitrogen? just go to a coffee shop and ask most likely they will be okay with you taking them and if they are bitches they are going to charge you for it.
 

3rd Monkey

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yea i know it needs to be diluted lol i was just speaking from my experience as i didn't dilute mine but that is the only experience i had with using piss in the garden. many people use it for gardening for fertilizing but not me. that is how i learned about using it.

i think you can use coffee grounds as well aren't they high in nitrogen? just go to a coffee shop and ask most likely they will be okay with you taking them and if they are bitches they are going to charge you for it.
Yea coffee grounds work real good as a pressed in mulch. I don't like them on the top because they attract ants like nobody's business.
 

Lethidox

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yea and i think egg shells can be added for calcium as well. just dry um/bake um and grind um into a powder. we use um in the aquarium hobby to feed out snails calcium because that is what makes the shells hard. that or we feed the bird stick thingy which birds typically gnaw on or rub their beaks on because it contains calcium as well. fish bone meal im sure is some good shit as well. i work at a sushi store so i can get um in bulk use it in a compost or something i know many use fish bi products for this reason. most stores just throw it away thats why nobody likes to really eat those parts but you can
 

3rd Monkey

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yea and i think egg shells can be added for calcium as well. just dry um/bake um and grind um into a powder. we use um in the aquarium hobby to feed out snails calcium because that is what makes the shells hard. that or we feed the bird stick thingy which birds typically gnaw on or rub their beaks on because it contains calcium as well. fish bone meal im sure is some good shit as well. i work at a sushi store so i can get um in bulk use it in a compost or something i know many use fish bi products for this reason. most stores just throw it away thats why nobody likes to really eat those parts but you can
I compost, so I hear you. Compost and coco is all I use. Harvest trimmings, coffee filters with grounds, egg shells, Mexican bamboo aka Japanese knotweed makes a bad ass carbon over the winter months, etc.

It's free, what's not to love? My compost bin sets right inside my grow area which is in my bedroom lol. No smell until you open it and it just smells earthy as all hell, in a good way.

I could never go back to bottled nutes, not that I have anything against them.
 

Lethidox

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I compost, so I hear you. Compost and coco is all I use. Harvest trimmings, coffee filters with grounds, egg shells, Mexican bamboo aka Japanese knotweed makes a bad ass carbon over the winter months, etc.

It's free, what's not to love? My compost bin sets right inside my grow area which is in my bedroom lol. No smell until you open it and it just smells earthy as all hell, in a good way.

I could never go back to bottled nutes, not that I have anything against them.
yea i used to vermicompost too much work in the end though hard 3 giant ass sinks or coolers i used as a bin. we have a lot of leaf trimmings and twigs and shit. never really used the compost though. i like liquid fertilizers idk why maybe less work overall for me idk. people got some crazy ass composting going on though like millipedes, BSFL, grubs, etc..
 

3rd Monkey

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yea i used to vermicompost too much work in the end though hard 3 giant ass sinks or coolers i used as a bin. we have a lot of leaf trimmings and twigs and shit. never really used the compost though. i like liquid fertilizers idk why maybe less work overall for me idk. people got some crazy ass composting going on though like millipedes, BSFL, grubs, etc..

I vermicompost but I don't know what you mean about work. I have a drain in the front where the tea comes out and I feed in the back. The worms eat the hell out of the back so then I load the front. In a day when they move to the other side, I just take out the castings and put in fresh bedding.

I have a farm, so worms and compost are the least of my work lol. The compost outside actually saves me a lot of work getting rid of waste. I suppose it's all what you want to do. I'll never go back lol.
 

Lethidox

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I vermicompost but I don't know what you mean about work. I have a drain in the front where the tea comes out and I feed in the back. The worms eat the hell out of the back so then I load the front. In a day when they move to the other side, I just take out the castings and put in fresh bedding.

I have a farm, so worms and compost are the least of my work lol. The compost outside actually saves me a lot of work getting rid of waste. I suppose it's all what you want to do. I'll never go back lol.
i run bins with no drain or screen. bottom is carbon, top is nitrogen. whatever moisture from the food drains to the bottom to moisten it so i never water. i keep it outside so no smells or anything just lots of various bugs but they don't really compete for food or space. i like to keep it super simple not have to invest in like worm towers or build a screen and all that. so when i harvest i need to remove the worms from the compost takes a long time per bin. that was when i was super anal about saving every single little worm and egg though if i were to get back into it i'd just say fuck it harvest everthing and use it as is and split the worms into new bins start fresh with a small colony.
 

3rd Monkey

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i run bins with no drain or screen. bottom is carbon, top is nitrogen. whatever moisture from the food drains to the bottom to moisten it so i never water. i keep it outside so no smells or anything just lots of various bugs but they don't really compete for food or space. i like to keep it super simple not have to invest in like worm towers or build a screen and all that. so when i harvest i need to remove the worms from the compost takes a long time per bin. that was when i was super anal about saving every single little worm and egg though if i were to get back into it i'd just say fuck it harvest everthing and use it as is and split the worms into new bins start fresh with a small colony.
Vermicomposting/composting is a lot like growing. Different strokes for different folks. As long as the end result is what YOU want, doesn't really matter. I think that's why I enjoy it so much. The lifestyle itself is freeing because you get out of it what you put into it, literally.

Anyhow, I like hearing of other people composting and growing. It's a reminder that as much life as we take as a species, some of us give back. Thanks for the chat.
 
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