Random Jibber Jabber Thread

Hydrotech364

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I haven't looked at your situation but as long as you aren't in the mountains you can get some irrigation by building up a reservoir
I keep 200 gal spare clean enough to drink.100 for feeding animal's.Everything is full now and I'll be moved and self sufficient by next Summer.Part's cost $$$ and Time to design and build is precious.
 

minnesmoker

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I think this one you had to be there for, but, I'll try to explain.

Got done working a 12+ hour late shift. Get home, and get baked, watch the new Dexter, and chill, getting baked (boss lady's with me!) I go to take a shower, and as I'm chillin' in the hot water, the boss lady pops in, she's standing in front of me, and I slowly edge to the side, then dodge back... "That's what the water feels like, baby." It was EPIC!

Anyway, had the most delicious stoner sandwich... I took a couple of the leftover pancakes we saved for stoner snacks, some chocolate frosting she made for my breakfast pancakes, and some peanut butter. That shit was delicious! And, here come the burgers!
 

Indagrow

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So I'm now on day three of a vegetarian diet (can't quit chocolate milk), is it normal to be like withdrawing from meat.. I don't feel so hot I have been taking b12 but I just feel kinda sluggish and constantly hungry.. I know it will get easier as I'm not good and knowing what would fill me up and what wouldn't but I've been supplementing with a protein shake made of whey I don't think it's 100% vegan, not sure.

any Input on what you felt during the switch would be greatly appreciated. I have have thus idea that a piece of bacon would make me feel better (Pavlov)
 

Bakatare666

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So I'm now on day three of a vegetarian diet (can't quit chocolate milk), is it normal to be like withdrawing from meat.. I don't feel so hot I have been taking b12 but I just feel kinda sluggish and constantly hungry.. I know it will get easier as I'm not good and knowing what would fill me up and what wouldn't but I've been supplementing with a protein shake made of whey I don't think it's 100% vegan, not sure.

any Input on what you felt during the switch would be greatly appreciated. I have have thus idea that a piece of bacon would make me feel better (Pavlov)
I gotta give ya props, I can't imagine life without cow and pig!:o
 

curious2garden

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So I'm now on day three of a vegetarian diet (can't quit chocolate milk), is it normal to be like withdrawing from meat.. I don't feel so hot I have been taking b12 but I just feel kinda sluggish and constantly hungry.. I know it will get easier as I'm not good and knowing what would fill me up and what wouldn't but I've been supplementing with a protein shake made of whey I don't think it's 100% vegan, not sure.

any Input on what you felt during the switch would be greatly appreciated. I have have thus idea that a piece of bacon would make me feel better (Pavlov)
Yes the feeling of withdrawals are normal. Your body will also change it's metabolism some as well so you'll feel a bit tired for awhile. Give yourself 6 full months to completely adjust but you will notice it much less as time goes on. Remember you will not be optimally digesting everything for a bit. Be gentle, human bodies are not simple caloric difference engines no matter what ADM/ConAgra are spinning.
 

Indagrow

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Yes the feeling of withdrawals are normal. Your body will also change it's metabolism some as well so you'll feel a bit tired for awhile. Give yourself 6 full months to completely adjust but you will notice it much less as time goes on. Remember you will not be optimally digesting everything for a bit. Be gentle, human bodies are not simple caloric difference engines no matter what ADM/ConAgra are spinning.
6 months? Woah haha I was going to run a trial period of like a month and see where I'm at.. I honestly am just doing it to see if its a healthier way of living, I figure you can't knock it till you try it. Is there anything I can take besides b12 or are there other supplements for this transition period? I have found that when you switch over that the amount of nuts I need to eat.. I should really be chewing them a lot more hahah ouch.
 

curious2garden

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6 months? Woah haha I was going to run a trial period of like a month and see where I'm at.. I honestly am just doing it to see if its a healthier way of living, I figure you can't knock it till you try it. Is there anything I can take besides b12 or are there other supplements for this transition period? I have found that when you switch over that the amount of nuts I need to eat.. I should really be chewing them a lot more hahah ouch.
Yes switching to a new diet requires about 90 days. Focus more on grains and beans. Google protein combining. Essentially you will require a cook book. I used this one to feed my family for years... be careful with a lot of the new 'vegetarian' pre made food. They can put a lot of nasty shit in it. However TVP is also tasty and can help you get through the withdrawals. So you are in for a lot of label reading.

Ten Talents there is a new 'updated' version by them but I can only speak to the 1968 version. That is what I linked to.
 

kinetic

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whey is a milk byproduct, most definelty not vegan. Don't worry about vegan yet if that 's your goal. Ease into it with a vegetarian diet like you are doing. Also if you maintain a vegetarian diet for a bit if you accidentaly, or deliberately consume meat make sure you do so in a place you are comfortable using the bathroom. Cuz you gonna blow it up.

and how do you feel about chick peas? Falafel is good, just don't feed it to your dog. It gets real stinky.
 

Indagrow

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Haha yeah I really need to do so,e vegan shopping.. I have a whole foods and my sister is a veggie head so she can walk me through it.. I have been lucky in that my garden runith over so I've just been eating those veggies. Come to find out fruits are not filling at all.. I, a huge fan of edame beans, I really need to try a lot of veggies I never really got to into it to be honest I found a couple I liked and just ate those my whole life because I was mainly a chicken eater. Ill defiantly start with that cookbook, I do need more grains and beans for sure.. Is hummus made from chick pease? If so I like them.. Especially with stoned wheat thin crackers hahhahah

edit: I think I can do 90 of this... This must be the worst point right the transition? It gets better I'm sure!
 

curious2garden

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Haha yeah I really need to do so,e vegan shopping.. I have a whole foods and my sister is a veggie head so she can walk me through it.. I have been lucky in that my garden runith over so I've just been eating those veggies. Come to find out fruits are not filling at all.. I, a huge fan of edame beans, I really need to try a lot of veggies I never really got to into it to be honest I found a couple I liked and just ate those my whole life because I was mainly a chicken eater. Ill defiantly start with that cookbook, I do need more grains and beans for sure.. Is hummus made from chick pease? If so I like them.. Especially with stoned wheat thin crackers haha
Yup, Humus is mashed chick peas, tahini, lemon juice, olive oil, salt and garlic. Falafel's are mashed chick peas too with a little bit of binder and seasoning. I usually fry mine in a fairly dry skillet just a hint of olive oil and then load into pita pockets with romaine, tomatoes and onions and some cucumber dressing. I miss being vegetarian more than you know. It's tough eating meat only when you crave tomatoes etc...

But at least I like meat now somewhat. LOL
 

Indagrow

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If this holds my garden will be massive next year.. Haha I was pissed I couldn't grow certain crops.. Time for a green house!

thanks for your help guys/ girls, id give you Internet points but I need to spread it around more haha
 

Bakatare666

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Haha yeah I really need to do so,e vegan shopping.. I have a whole foods and my sister is a veggie head so she can walk me through it.. I have been lucky in that my garden runith over so I've just been eating those veggies. Come to find out fruits are not filling at all.. I, a huge fan of edame beans, I really need to try a lot of veggies I never really got to into it to be honest I found a couple I liked and just ate those my whole life because I was mainly a chicken eater. Ill defiantly start with that cookbook, I do need more grains and beans for sure.. Is hummus made from chick pease? If so I like them.. Especially with stoned wheat thin crackers hahhahah

edit: I think I can do 90 of this... This must be the worst point right the transition? It gets better I'm sure!
Just don't do like I do, and get to liking Mayonnaise on anything green, like Artichokes, Asparagus, Broccoli, Brussels Sprouts, even Cauliflower or rice I like Mayo on, but with all the oil, it can easily get fattening, same with butter.
Anything I put Mayo on, everybody else I know uses butter.
 

beuffer420

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I used to like mayo and french fries. Oh to be young and have that metabolism again.
I can eat a lot of things on French fries but no way could I eat mayo on them or eat mayo period. My hats off to yas bro!

french fries do sound good though right now lol
 

kinetic

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Ya know, our quantity of life is extending but here in America our quality of life is not keeping pace. I watched my grandmother live to be 92, she was disappointed that she had to put one hand on the table when balancing on one leg and bending at the waist while doing her yoga at 85. She ate meat, though not in the quantity that we see today. She used little salt and sugar, I don't recall ever eating steak there growing up and on occasion had meatballs. Mostly turkey, fish and chicken were our meat staples. She was one fit lady.

When I let myself go she was the first to let me know about it. Poking my belly and reminding me how athletic my grandfather was. She would be proud to see me reshaping myself back into the physical fitness lifestyle I used to have.
 

sunni

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So I'm now on day three of a vegetarian diet (can't quit chocolate milk), is it normal to be like withdrawing from meat.. I don't feel so hot I have been taking b12 but I just feel kinda sluggish and constantly hungry.. I know it will get easier as I'm not good and knowing what would fill me up and what wouldn't but I've been supplementing with a protein shake made of whey I don't think it's 100% vegan, not sure.

any Input on what you felt during the switch would be greatly appreciated. I have have thus idea that a piece of bacon would make me feel better (Pavlov)
try chocolate almond milk? though unsweetened vanilla almond is better
at the moment youre flushing out all the toxins from processed foods so youll worse before better
Whey is milk so no its not vegan.
Be careful READ EVER fucking package and EVERY ingredient list they like to hide animal products in different nmaes like
(HINT there is usually a V on the package if its vegan )
heres a list of hidden animal products
Albumin
Animal shortening
Carmine (carmine cochineal or carminic acid)
Casein (caseinate)
Gelatin
Glucose (dextrose)
Glycerides (mono-, di-, and triglycerides)
Isinglass
Lactic acid
Lactose (saccharum lactin, D-lactose)
Lactylic stearate
Lard
Lecithin
Lutein
Oleic acid (oleinic acid)
Pepsin
Stearic acid (octadecanoic acid)
Suet
Tallow
Vitamin A (A1, retinol)
Supplements, fortified foods
Whey



heres the thing the list is long and scary and you will fuck up gaunteed. i had the last and STILL the first month bought veggie cheese that technically had milk in it
heres some products that will help you EASE into it
Veganiase ...vegan mayo stir it for like ever before you eat it
Tempeh Maple smoked tempeh it isnt bacon, doesnt even come close but you can put it on things like sanwiches, beside pancakes kinda thing
Diaya Cheese (ONLY MOZZARELLA FLAVOUR) It will take some getting used to but out of any vegan cheese ive tried this is the ONLY decent one, add it to whatever dont eat it out the package

I never felt crappy if anything i felt better but its all psychological too , youll probably feel better in a week
If youre only going to be a vegetarian i dont even think you need to take b12.
Im vegan and dont , b12 is very essential to the human make up however you need VERY little of it, if you buy like a almond milk it has fortified b12 in it and youll get enough b12 from 2 cups

As kinetic said be prepared to have to use the bathroom....a LOT
depending on your current veggie intake you may be finding vegans have a lot of fiber intake and or if you consume meat youre gunna have a bad time
 

beuffer420

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I just saw a thing online that residents of New York can't even have knives sent to them if they try to order one. It was a military used knife though, but still. Pretty soon they won't b allowed knives at the dinner table if it keeps like that.
 
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