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Dr.Pecker

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Charging a cancer patient $300 an ounce when they can't afford it is a shitty thing to do as well.

I guess it just depends what chair you're sitting in.
That's the big one. Our current laws wont support cancer patients. Two and a half ounces reduced to oil is only a few days treatment. That kind of forces a caregiver to grow more than the allotted amount in order to truly help, otherwise its just enough to comfort them until death. The catch 22 is you can use pot to treat cancer but not enough to cure it. The current laws are a death sentence for some people and need to be changed.
 

NurseNancy420

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That's the big one. Our current laws wont support cancer patients. Two and a half ounces reduced to oil is only a few days treatment. That kind of forces a caregiver to grow more than the allotted amount in order to truly help, otherwise its just enough to comfort them until death. The catch 22 is you can use pot to treat cancer but not enough to cure it. The current laws are a death sentence for some people and need to be changed.
Don't forget all oil is considered outside of MMMA protections by our current batch of prosecutors
 

Stonironi

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Charging a cancer patient $300 an ounce when they can't afford it is a shitty thing to do as well.

I guess it just depends what chair you're sitting in.
And that is if you are lucky ? Some of these places are charging almost 500 an oz. whoa that is crazy 60 or 65 a 1/8 yeah right !!!
 

st0wandgrow

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That's the big one. Our current laws wont support cancer patients. Two and a half ounces reduced to oil is only a few days treatment. That kind of forces a caregiver to grow more than the allotted amount in order to truly help, otherwise its just enough to comfort them until death. The catch 22 is you can use pot to treat cancer but not enough to cure it. The current laws are a death sentence for some people and need to be changed.
That's a very good point. I caregive for a stage 4 bone cancer patient. I've had to change things up in my garden to meet her needs. I used to harvest once every 3-4 weeks, but I now stagger a set of plants to come down every week so that I have enough ready for her at all times. It's not easy to jump through the hoops, but I'm making it work. She's on a fixed income of $800 (SSD) a month. I wouldn't dream of charging her a penny. I recoup my expenses from my other patients, one in particular who makes great money and doesn't mind chipping in. What do I get out of it? Free weed to smoke, and the satisfaction of knowing that I'm helping people out. This law was never set up for caregivers to make a living. Hopefully that changes some day....

As for the oil, and the legality of it? I'm prepared to fight that if need be. It's one of the major fuck ups with this legislation. The idea that cancer patients can't use a concentrated oil, or that children have to roll a doobie and smoke it in order to ingest their meds is ridiculous. I'd like to believe that a jury of my peers would see the flawed logic in that.
 

ttystikk

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Charging a cancer patient $300 an ounce when they can't afford it is a shitty thing to do as well.

I guess it just depends what chair you're sitting in.
When someone comes to me with a serious and genuine medical condition, they get meds from me, cost no obstacle.

I live in Colorado so that's clearly not everyone- but when it is, I take care of them regardless of their ability to pay.

So that's how it looks from this chair.
 

st0wandgrow

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When someone comes to me with a serious and genuine medical condition, they get meds from me, cost no obstacle.

I live in Colorado so that's clearly not everyone- but when it is, I take care of them regardless of their ability to pay.

So that's how it looks from this chair.
That's how I handle it too. Every person/situation is different, and I'm definitely not afraid to discriminate based upon needs and income.

I think Colorado is a bit different than Michigan. It's very tough to make a living out of growing weed here (if you plan on following the law). If I were going to try that, I wouldn't bother with the MMMP. I'd stay under ground and keep my name off of any registry list
 

ttystikk

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That's how I handle it too. Every person/situation is different, and I'm definitely not afraid to discriminate based upon needs and income.

I think Colorado is a bit different than Michigan. It's very tough to make a living out of growing weed here (if you plan on following the law). If I were going to try that, I wouldn't bother with the MMMP. I'd stay under ground and keep my name off of any registry list
I feel lucky indeed to be in the position I am, able to help so many less fortunate.

It's easy to tell those who really need it, too; they have trouble asking for help. They do not want a handout...
 

Stonironi

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It is sad how things have turned out in Michigan . But we are lucky enough to have medical marijuana. We could be in Ohio :( have any of you seen that they are passing a law this month to be able to mouth swab when pulled over ? Says something like they can tell if you have medicated in the last 3 hours then you get aDUI ??? WTF everyone that medicated will now be making a felony if they drive at all really . And it's gonna pass hands down !! That is crap. They don't want us to medicate. They want us to follow the rules, eat a bunch of pills ,and get cancer and die early because the world is overpopulated. When I told my doctor that I didn't need pain pills anymore because I smoke medical marijuana he was pissed , you could see it in his eyes and his tone ?That is the truth and it's sad .
 

kaka420

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When someone comes to me with a serious and genuine medical condition, they get meds from me, cost no obstacle.

I live in Colorado so that's clearly not everyone- but when it is, I take care of them regardless of their ability to pay.

So that's how it looks from this chair.
I'd rather have a sick patient medicating for free than most patients.
 

rzza

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As for the oil, and the legality of it? I'm prepared to fight that if need be. It's one of the major fuck ups with this legislation. The idea that cancer patients can't use a concentrated oil, or that children have to roll a doobie and smoke it in order to ingest their meds is ridiculous. I'd like to believe that a jury of my peers would see the flawed logic in that.
Hey Stow! Been a while. Why do you question the legality? This seems to address concentrates pretty clearly, what's your opinion? Is this contradicted somewhere else?

"Marihuana" means all parts of the plant Cannabis sativa L., growing or not; the seeds of that plant; the resin extracted from any part of the plant; and every compound, manufacture, salt, derivative, mixture, or preparation of the plant or its seeds or resin. Marihuana does not include the mature stalks of the plant, fiber produced from the stalks, oil or cake made from the seeds of the plant, any other compound, manufacture, salt, derivative, mixture, or preparation of the mature stalks, except the resin extracted from those stalks, fiber, oil, or cake, or any sterilized seed of the plant that is incapable of germination. Marihuana does not include industrial hemp grown or cultivated, or both, for research purposes under the industrial hemp research act.

Source:http://www.legislature.mi.gov/(S(z4nowemfcccwfpvw00hjkgin))/mileg.aspx?page=getobject&objectname=mcl-333-7106&query=on&highlight=resin
 

st0wandgrow

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Hey Stow! Been a while. Why do you question the legality? This seems to address concentrates pretty clearly, what's your opinion? Is this contradicted somewhere else?

"Marihuana" means all parts of the plant Cannabis sativa L., growing or not; the seeds of that plant; the resin extracted from any part of the plant; and every compound, manufacture, salt, derivative, mixture, or preparation of the plant or its seeds or resin. Marihuana does not include the mature stalks of the plant, fiber produced from the stalks, oil or cake made from the seeds of the plant, any other compound, manufacture, salt, derivative, mixture, or preparation of the mature stalks, except the resin extracted from those stalks, fiber, oil, or cake, or any sterilized seed of the plant that is incapable of germination. Marihuana does not include industrial hemp grown or cultivated, or both, for research purposes under the industrial hemp research act.

Source:http://www.legislature.mi.gov/(S(z4nowemfcccwfpvw00hjkgin))/mileg.aspx?page=getobject&objectname=mcl-333-7106&query=on&highlight=resin
Hey rzza, it has been a while. I thought there was a ruling a while back on concentrates. Nothing explicitly stated in the bill, but I thought that had set presidence.
 

Resinxtractor

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35k grant ..lol, chump change..what are these clowns going to do with 35k? ...it will be spent in 10 days.
Yeah gone in no time im sure, not only that but they where suppose to meet the grant deadline in january but somehow they can just miss that by 4 months and still get it.
 
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