Renfro
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Since he's outdoors thats not a big issue. A little defoliation will let light get into the plants inner bits better though.
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Renfro
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In flower I am the opposite, I wanna defoliate the big fans that block nodes inside and lower. I leave the lower fans because they aren't in the way, they can feed the roots and act as nitrogen reservoirs for later flower (I wanna see them fading in late flower to indicate I am not using too much nitrogen in my ripening feed).
Jameajd997
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I only put it in that cabinet for 12 hours so it gets some darkness I know about low stress training but that would mean I couldn’t get it back in the cabinet what do you reckon I should just leave it outside and forget about the cabinet ?Looking good. I was worried that the plant was crammed to some small closet based on first post
Anyways you should remove some of the small lower branches and leafs and try to spread it as wide as possible. Look into low stress training(LST) methods, basically just tie the branches, so that it gets as wide as possible to get as much light as possible to as many possible parts of the plant as possible and look into lollipopping: https://www.growweedeasy.com/lollipopping-cannabis-tutorial
The low branches that dont even get light properly wont make nothing but low quality leafy buds, but they waste energy, energy which the plant could use to produce bigger and higher quality buds on top. Even tho it may sound counterintuitive, removing those type of branches will increate the yield. Just dont remove anything that would get light and think before you remove anything.
Removing lower leafs is good because the leafs wont be getting any light, so they basically do nothing there but prevent good airflow and lack of good airflow can cause budrot, pests and all sorts of problems, besides forcing the plant to keep parts alive that are not productive.
CannaOnerStar
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I would rather spread it as wide as possible with LST and then see which individual leafs would be worth removing from top and which lower branches and leafs would be better removed.
If some branch is at the bottom and very small at this point, it will not grow big and good even if it would start to get light from now on. But ofc if it would get light and removing it would mean that light goes to waste, then its better to keep it. If it can gather its own light, then it wont be taxing to the whole plant, so even if the bud would not be optimal, it would be something that is not away from bigger and better buds. If it cant collect its own light it will be crap and away from other potentially better buds
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CannaOnerStar
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Could you maybe make some large box/tent that blocks light over night?
Another option would be to build some frame for LST outside, which would not be as drastic training and which you could remove for the night. Just something to spread the plant a bit for it to get more light
Is it getting soon close enough for 12/12 outside, so that you could start keeping it there all the time? The thing is that that plant will grow from that and then the small closet which is barely big enough now, might not be large enough anymore.
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Renfro
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@Jameajd997 How do you intend to support the plants branches in later flower?
Renfro
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I hear that, I am indoor and my plants would be hitting my third layer of trellis by now. I like to spread them wide, I still need to defoliate those big upper fans some to get better penetration and development of nodes deeper than 18 inches or so. I don't do it as much as I should, mostly due to plant accessibility issues and a bad back lol.
I lollipop them after stretch and get those branches that aren't getting to light.
The great thing about growing this "weed" is there are many approaches, each with it's own pros and cons, so much fun to experiment when you have multiple plants, try different methods on each and record your results. I have learned so much just by playing around lol
Jameajd997
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I haven’t even thought about that mate didn’t think I would have to
CannaOnerStar
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Yep and even if you would become some complete master with some particular setup, you would still need to learn new things if you switched things in your setup, because whats best depends on the setup and half of growing skills is not skills of growing cannabis plant itself, its skills on how to utilise your gear and nutes the best way possible. Naturally when one learns to grow in general, its easier to use what ever gear because you know the fundamentals of how plant works, but getting the most is always something you can improve on and try new setups etc. Which at least to me keeps the whole thing much more interesting. I tend to get bored on things that are easy to learn and which do not leave much room for improving your skills on it.
Also because there are so many ways and styles and setups and different things to learn. One might get better results doing X than X and another get better results with Y than X.
Personally i would think that because its outside, its even more important to keep good care of the airflow, so that the plant doesent get mold or pests.
Southside112
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I thought the same. Lol. Crowded in a closet.
Outdoors huh. So yeah since you are in soil definitely add some bloom nutrients. Dont go to heavy. Start at like 600ppm and work up from there.
Outdoors huh. So yeah since you are in soil definitely add some bloom nutrients. Dont go to heavy. Start at like 600ppm and work up from there.
Jameajd997
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I just tied it down to spread it a little will probably tie it down some more tomorrow what do you guys think ? Since feeding it the bio bloom nutes yesterday some of the leaves have gone yellow I’m guessing it’s normal as it isn’t used to nutes ?
