Quick Drying - The Other Side Of The Coin

GoodFriend

Lumberjack
C'mon, you can do this. Just a bit of creative dorking around with power tools. Manly stuff. :D
lol... if only you knew... i have a hammer and a screw driver and that's about it for tools... haha... well a few razor blades and whatnot...

and it was hard enough for me to pay the 100 bucks for my new fan... most money i've spent on any one piece of grow equipment... heh...

but hell, i'm in the friggin desert, 20% RH isn't too hard for me to come by... and the temps are a breeze (actually it'd be keeping it cool that would be the problem)

i love the bud dryer though, i'm sure eventually i'll rig up something not nearly as well put together, but it'll be something all the same.. haha
 

Seamaiden

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i have some bud here that is from last year. it's hella cured. it has some type of moisture in it because it "tears". like fresh tobacco. it doesn't crumble but it is dry. kinda hard to explain. even if i let it sit out it still doesn't get crispy. i'd have to leave it in the sun or something. it smells like dust until you break a bud open then the smell explodes out of it.
Dave rolls his own ciggies, I know EXACTLY what you mean about (good) fresh tobacco. So.. how does one cure the bud so it retains those properties? Or is that as much a function of the strain/plant itself as potency is?
 

Al B. Fuct

once had a dog named
When you dry buds, air is what's carrying the water away.
Hang on, I just solved that problem. :)

Build a dryer from a totally airtight box using a modified dehumidifier to remove water. The cold coil from the dehumidifier (or small aircon unit) would go inside the box and have a circ fan to move the atmosphere in the box around... but here's the trick.

The atmosphere should be nitrogen from a tank, easily available from welding supply houses. It is oxygen in air which damages potency, so we just get rid of it and replace it with 100% nitrogen gas. The nitrogen is constantly recycled within the box, picking up water molecules off the buds and condensing them on the cold coil. Voilà, no oxidation. :)

Lotttttta work. Wonder if it's worth it.
 

Seamaiden

Well-Known Member
Hang on, I just solved that problem. :)

Build a dryer from a totally airtight box using a modified dehumidifier to remove water. The cold coil from the dehumidifier (or small aircon unit) would go inside the box and have a circ fan to move the atmosphere in the box around... but here's the trick.

The atmosphere should be nitrogen from a tank, easily available from welding supply houses. It is oxygen in air which damages potency, so we just get rid of it and replace it with 100% nitrogen gas. The nitrogen is constantly recycled within the box, picking up water molecules off the bids and condensing them on the cold coil. Voilà, no oxidation. :)

Lotttttta work. Wonder if it's worth it.
Hold on! I've got a link to a supply house for you, spoonfed to me by one MisterNiceGuy.
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fdd2blk

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Dave rolls his own ciggies, I know EXACTLY what you mean about (good) fresh tobacco. So.. how does one cure the bud so it retains those properties? Or is that as much a function of the strain/plant itself as potency is?
i let it dry until it's crispy but the stems still bend then i jar it and hide it. open it once a month or so to steal a nuggie out. :-P
 

fdd2blk

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i've read that book, which i think may have since been edited, where it says to jar your weed up wet. you let it dry for a day then put it in a jar. you watch the jar very close. when you see moisture form on the inside you open the jar and air it out until it dries. then seal it again and repeat. you have to open it every couple hours the first few days. i did this once with about 6 ounces and it turned out really good. if you forget and miss a few hours and things are right/wrong, your bud will melt and rot. like leaving a head of lettuce in the car on a hot day. but that's a whole other thread. :)
 

Al B. Fuct

once had a dog named
oh yeah, someone mentioned a Peltier Effect dehumidifier to me once, very cheap, maybe $80, he's building a dryer with one. Ideal candidate for the nitrogen atmosphere dryer.
 

Seamaiden

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posssssibly... one way permeable.
Yeah! You see where I'm headed.

Btw, I'm reading through that chemical safety sheet link you provided, and some of the stuff in there is pretty funny. Like this:
Air & Water Reactions
Slightly soluble in water.

Fire Hazard
Flash point data for this chemical are not available; however, it is probably combustible. (NTP, 1992)

Health Hazard
SYMPTOMS: Exposure to this compound may cause euphoria, relaxation, sleepiness, short term memory impairment; deterioration of ability to perform memory-dependent goal-oriented behavior, and loss of balance. Higher doses can cause hallucinations, delusions, paranoia, confusion, altered time sense, anxiety, nausea, vomiting, ataxia, stupor, coma, cardiovascular effects and redness of the eyes.
Coma...? Ok, I guess I can't expect them to say, "Exceeding dankness may lock victim onto couch." :lol:
And, ya think? "probably combustible"? :lol:

As I recollect, pure N doesn't hold much water vapor at all, does it?
 

Al B. Fuct

once had a dog named
Coma...? Ok, I guess I can't expect them to say, "Exceeding dankness may lock victim onto couch." :lol:
Yeah, hilarious!

And, ya think? "probably combustible"? :lol:
'probably' isn't a term you often see in an MSDS, is it? :lol:

As I recollect, pure N doesn't hold much water vapor at all, does it?
Good question. I'll look into that.

I would have thought that the mechanism of removing water molecules from something by evaporation was a mechanical process, something of an emulsion of gases as opposed to a solution.

However, an alternative which I know doesn't have any trouble picking up water vapour would be CO2, if dry ice vapour is anything to go by.
 

Seamaiden

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That's a good question. I have a friend who's a chem prof./researcher at UCSC, I should ask him. He'll roll his eyes for such a basic question (he runs a lab studying RNA), but he knows what I'm on about. ;)
 

Al B. Fuct

once had a dog named
heh, yeah, it may be a bit like asking a brain surgeon to carve a turkey, but if that person isn't too annoyed, you may get some good data without working too hard.
 

SmellsLikeLemonz

Active Member
i currently hang dry in a closet w 1 circ fan, it takes 3-7 days depending on strain/amount of plants in there. (temp ranges 74-85)

I have tried the following methods,.. and yes im a very impatient person who only wanted to take something right off a plant and put it in a bowl.... but dont we all?...

Microwave paper towel method barely worked and tasted funny, also makes it kinda smell like whatever you microwaved last ... eww easy mac + cannibis =bad

Oven method, Worked alright, hard to monitor crispiness, best to check every few minutes. at 170 degrees, best to vape or roll.

Volcano method (best method I have found (pending a thread)) I just set my Volcano digit to 170 F and carefully break it into pebble sized nuglets in an insanely phat bowl (which shrinks to about a third of the size by the time i am done) i empty it into my hand a few times over the course of 5-10 minutes of the volcano being on, and i put it back in in a diffirent position.... the lower the temp (yet longer) the better smelling and tasting the result.
anything over 180 leaves a weird spincachy smell, its always better just to turn the volcano up to 355 and vape it after drying it because it tastes much better than smoking it, but smoking it yeilds pleasant results but not nearly as nice as a full 3-5 day dry in a closet.

.... i do understand that this method does require you actually own a volcano digit, (i think setting 2.5 on the analog one would be relative to what you want) which probably makes it the worlds most expensive bud dryer but this is assuming you have already made such a plunge ;-).

tower fan method, hang a few branches from the top of a tower fan, usually takes a couple days depending on humidity and temp obviously. better smell than microwave, oven, volcano etc, but needs to be checked every few hours unles you dont mind finding it extra crispy one day ;-)


i have to say that what al b fuct is talking about shouldnt be considered quick drying as i know just by reading a description of it that it is not anything like other quick drying methods uses air at 85 Degrees which is not unusual for a hot day in a closet and does not damage thc! this is more of a "relatively fast" dryer

I have to say im not a big curing guy, i do agree the the smell becomes more saturated after it sits in a jar for a longer period of time, but thc is thc, it doesnt magically harden and multiply, the effect is the same, the medicinal quality is not diffirent, its like an aged chese, yeah you can just barely tell the diffirence, but was it really worth waiting the X years to get that small small change in smell taste? I usually cure for a few days and then cure over the course of the time it is being consumed. but i would never back someone saying a multiple week cure is necessary or worth it.

I think its also a good portion about for how LONG you allow them to dry, in ANY situation, As al b fuct said earlier in this thread, if fdd's freind was quick"er" drying and it came out crumbly than obviously he wasnt keeping good enough tabs on how dry his crop was!

I have harvested buds that i have been lucky enough to check on just at that point mentioned earlier in the thread, Not crumbly, not stretchy wet, but it tears in a nice squishy way and still has alot of smell left in it, after only 1 day the whole jar stank as if it had been cured for a much longer period of time.


It would be nice if nature just did the job for us and cannibis had a light pattern that made it just kill itself, drink all the water out of its system, let all the branches sag (so the leaves cover some nugs from light) and the buds just started falling off like apples when they were done....mmmm.... apples...
 

Al B. Fuct

once had a dog named
this is more of a "relatively fast" dryer
hah, I spose it is. :D

Depends on your point of view, really; I could not find a way of drying more quickly without doing something that would damage potency, ie temps above 29C, so my dryer is as 'quick' as the job can be done without compromising quality.

But I'll live with 'relatively fast.' :lol:
 

Seamaiden

Well-Known Member
Ok, the vapor that comes off of dry ice is CO2. This is why it falls, as CO2 is definitely heavier than air. I suspected as much, but didn't want to make a definitive statement.
 

Seamaiden

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Lemonz, I am a fan of cheese (seriously, I LOVE cheese), and I do notice the differences between young and old cheeses. :)
 

Hydrotech364

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It also displaces oxygen seamaiden,so you can suffocate if you have a room full of the co2.Alot of fire fighters die every year because of this.
 
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