Question about what’s to much red.

crankdoctor

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I’ve been looking at new lights and see a few company’s are using more than 50% red. I’d say it would be good for flower but not so much for veg. Tall plants. What I don’t understand is how can half of a strip/bar light say 50 red diodes and 50 white diodes around 4k work well from start to finish. The ones I’ve seen are running the gen 4 osram squares over 4.0 j. Blue being around 15%. My question is how much red is to much? Standard use to be 3k for all around now it’s more 4k as years went by. I’ve stayed at 35k but with all this new tech like adjustable spectrums which makes sense but not sure to stick with what I have or tech up! Is anybody growing with 50% or more red and your thoughts. Thanks for looking.
 

PSUAGRO.

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Nothing wrong with some r/dr .......I grew on Mars, lol. Con with the "meat" cobs(1750k) was plant diagnosis, not much else.
 
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crankdoctor

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I did quick calculate first one on Osram sight and it came out about right but kind of weak compared to most for the area. 5x5. I know you can grow with wrong colors since people been doing it for years and good at high intensity. One caught my eye but not sure it’s enough with only 4 bars and not that many diodes per bar. 100 to be exact. Reds can be dimmed to off but not sure if there’s enough white to even do much in veg. Chart at bottom shows in open air. Claims 2.2 grams per watt but that’s kinda old news. Rehttps://boulderlamp.com/product/perfectpar-650w-led/#reviews
Then there these with over 50% red spectrum https://www.growlightscience.com/
So if buying 2 of the grow 300 would be same watts and price as perfect par.
Back to the question of reds it just seems pretty high. Can’t find any grow info on either. Looking at both one has 400 total diodes and other to compleat a 5x5 area has over 2000 diodes. To me that would be the clear winner but I don’t know!
Either way it would be nice if you could turn up some blue in veg. I can see why people stay with hps because of the led drama. It seems like it’s going back to lamp for veg and one for flower if not using adjustable spectrums. Maybe that’s the way to go. Who knows but it’s getting confusing.
 

Kassiopeija

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they do this to jack the umol high, as the 660nm have a good output
their light-recipe ignores a hell of research and some claims (red is best for photosynthesis) reeks of dis-knowledge how it works
but it will grow regardless but can potentially burn the tops if you want max ppfd (or use CO2 enrich) as compared to a more green, yellow & farred emphasized spectra
 
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