Question about seeds price

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Heisenberg.2nd

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I grown many seeds in my 8 years of cultivars, dinafem, sensi, barney's, sweetseeds, remo chemo, sensi etc. Price are quite good and i do research to find "exotic" seeds, something that is often not found in growshops here in Italy. I tried Ethos Genetics, fem and auto and i was happy because i found some new phenos and plants were really vigorous. I'm still searching new breeders and i found in house genetics, clearwater, beleaf, the plug seedbank, cannarado, aficionado etc.
For some seeds I can't find many infos, like clearwater, no description, no sativa / indica %, no photos and the prices seems very high to me. As aficionado, it has extremely high prices, in house genetics costs twice as much as ethos seeds. I rely on ethos because in my opinion is the best I have ever tried, I wonder what justifies the double price of in-house or 4 times as aficionado.. I tried spumoni from the plug seedbank and it seemed fantastic pheno, only that I struggle to find it available. I would try new seedbanks but I am forced to go back to ethos for the value for money .. the prices they put in house, aficionado, be leaf, clearwater are random or are there a particular reason? Sorry for my english guys, I hope it's understandable
 
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jondamon

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Heisenberg.2nd said:
I grown many seeds in my 8 years of cultivars, dinafem, sensi, barney's, sweetseeds, remo chemo, sensi etc. Price are quite good and i do research to find "exotic" seeds, something that is often not found in growshops here in Italy. I tried Ethos Genetics, fem and auto and i was happy because i found some new phenos and plants were really vigorous. I'm still searching new breeders and i found in house genetics, clearwater, beleaf, the plug seedbank, cannarado, aficionado etc.
For some seeds I can't find many infos, like clearwater, no description, no sativa / indica %, no photos and the prices seems very high to me. As aficionado, it has extremely high prices, in house genetics costs twice as much as ethos seeds. I rely on ethos because in my opinion is the best I have ever tried, I wonder what justifies the double price of in-house or 4 times as aficionado.. I tried spumoni from the plug seedbank and it seemed fantastic pheno, only that I struggle to find it available. I would try new seedbanks but I am forced to go back to ethos for the value for money .. the prices they put in house, aficionado, be leaf, clearwater are random or are there a particular reason? Sorry for my english guys, I hope it's understandable
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It’s because they have made the seeds usually crossing the “HYPE” strain with the next “HYPE” strain without stabilising any of the strains or back crossing etc.


they literally crossing plant A with plant B and selling the seeds.
 
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conor c

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jondamon said:
It’s because they have made the seeds usually crossing the “HYPE” strain with the next “HYPE” strain without stabilising any of the strains or back crossing etc.


they literally crossing plant A with plant B and selling the seeds.
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Yeah that and greed basically
 
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Heisenberg.2nd

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Thanks for the replies, as I thought they are unstabilized crosses just to sell a new phenotype. At this point I wonder which breeders do genetic stabilization? For example I know that mephisto has F7s, if theoretically have done a good job should be stable genetics. Honestly I am interested in finding breeders who have stable phenos and not a random and unstable F1. night owl have F3, of feminized seeds can someone advise some really good seedbanks? A lot of people suggest me bodhi but they've only regs
 
twentyeight.threefive

twentyeight.threefive

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Heisenberg.2nd said:
Thanks for the replies, as I thought they are unstabilized crosses just to sell a new phenotype. At this point I wonder which breeders do genetic stabilization? For example I know that mephisto has F7s, if theoretically have done a good job should be stable genetics. Honestly I am interested in finding breeders who have stable phenos and not a random and unstable F1. night owl have F3, of feminized seeds can someone advise some really good seedbanks? A lot of people suggest me bodhi but they've only regs
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Yup Bohdi. Worth it though.
 
twentyeight.threefive

twentyeight.threefive

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xtsho said:
The seed game is a joke. Overpriced hyped up polyhybrids anyone with a tent that wants to chuck some pollen can make.
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My last run looked nice but I’d never run anything from them again. Paid the same price for regulars as I would for a quality pack of Bohdi. Multiple healthy plants becoming hermies. Pollen chuckers everywhere.
 
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Heisenberg.2nd

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In recent years have also found several genetics with nanners / hermie even if I have not stressed plants. I often run in hydro / aeroponics and coco coir dwt and have found my balance. Even ethos with these "alpha" fems did not fully convince me. I wanted to increase the quality / stability and I'm realizing that if I don't grow regular strains I'll have a hard time finding what I'm looking for. Years ago with stable old strains I never had problems with hermaphroditism. By dint of throwing pollen on all the plants it seems that they are messing up strains making them less stable and less resistant to mold and parasites. Besides bodhi are there any other valid seedbanks? Terpfi3nd? Otherwise, I take vacation and start traveling around the Middle East and South America to search landraces
 
PopAndSonGrows

PopAndSonGrows

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Archive Seeds is one to check out, i think their genetics are pretty amazing. But, again, we're back to the pricing game argument and this breeder is no exception; their seedpacks range in price from 100us to like 350, and they do have some cheaper "Expedition" gear but they're admittedly testers for the most part. I recently found a dispensary that had 20-dollar clones of Rainbow Belts, and those seeds are waaay more than 20 bucks, lol. Not sure if that would be an option in Italy but just one more breeder to maybe add to your list. ...??
 
ProPheT 216

ProPheT 216

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Here is a nl x afghan from Mr nice. First bean out of 18 looks like this. Can't wait to regrow this lady and FIM and top the shit outta her

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ProPheT 216

ProPheT 216

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twentyeight.threefive said:
I’m not really into the foxtailing plants. It doesn’t affect anything but the looks, but that’s why I personally don’t like it. Lots of pistils though! Looks hairy.
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Hairy like a dog's leg. I don't like the foxtailing either. Makes me feel like I've done something wrong seeing the little claws and curls coming out the buds. However no one sees that but me. Quality with quantity is still how I pick a keeper. If she smokes good and her clone produces colas like that when I top it em she may earn a place for a lil while... I got some super skunk, red hot cookies, gorilla girl, grandmommy purple, runtz punch all growing from seed right now so we will see
 
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berrygarcia

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Heisenberg.2nd said:
Thanks for the replies, as I thought they are unstabilized crosses just to sell a new phenotype. At this point I wonder which breeders do genetic stabilization? For example I know that mephisto has F7s, if theoretically have done a good job should be stable genetics. Honestly I am interested in finding breeders who have stable phenos and not a random and unstable F1. night owl have F3, of feminized seeds can someone advise some really good seedbanks? A lot of people suggest me bodhi but they've only regs
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look up Ace Seeds they have done multi-generation work with landraces and heirlooms, also they are based in EU so probably easier for you to get seeds.
 
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GreezzyGuy

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ProPheT 216 said:
Here is a nl x afghan from Mr nice. First bean out of 18 looks like this. Can't wait to regrow this lady and FIM and top the shit outta her

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you can see the Thai in the NL peaking its head. That is what made NLxHaze so bad ass
The northern lights Tamed the highland Thai in her, down to a manageable level.

I dont see much of the afghan expression in the pheno.
NL and Thai big time tho. the afghan must be buride
 
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