Quantum Boards / Too much Yapping no proof

MrNorth

MrNorth

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Ok this is my 1 year anniversary with quantum boards.
240 w 400 k ( dimmed ) in 2x4 tent veg.
600 w 3000 k with red and uv (dimmed) 4x4 flower tent.
After using HPS and quantum boards I have to say hps is easier to get big dense buds with. I hear a whole bunch of numbers chucked around from guys who have a lot of gadgets and very little experience ( not many white whiskers on their chin )
Most of the advice you hear about distance from the canopy is absolutely wrong .... you will fry your plants . All this crap about cal mag and on is guys guys putting lights too close ..... its that simple.
After a year and almost 5 crops I will give them this:
1 . They are safer and cooler.
2. They save power .
But , what did you save getting less weight in hard dense bud ? Thats what its about.
A lot of my crop is now only good for making ice hash , then rosin so it doesn’t mold.
4 , 6 , and 1000 hps all grow bigger and more dense tops than Quantum boards.
This is not to say that its the wrong choice because the safety thing is major consideration.
I will continue because my grow is a small legal hobby in canada. My point here is that now that I have a fair bit of experience with both , these guys spouting numbers are doing just that.
 
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Hempire828

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I’m yet to run hps, even with my whiskers my first real light was a 315 CMH 4K & 3k. I’m comparing my 260 v1 in a 3x3. At this point in the grow my plants seem about the same..what I was surprised about was the fact it seemed to produce the same amount of heat.. and maybe it’s just me...but these are some very strong lights and seem to be kept further away. Could be me though!!
 
Moflow

Moflow

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Hempire828 said:
I’m yet to run hps, even with my whiskers my first real light was a 315 CMH 4K & 3k. I’m comparing my 260 v1 in a 3x3. At this point in the grow my plants seem about the same..what I was surprised about was the fact it seemed to produce the same amount of heat.. and maybe it’s just me...but these are some very strong lights and seem to be kept further away. Could be me though!!
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The 2 lights have near enough the same wattage so similar amounts of heat are produced.
 
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christopher jordan

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MrNorth said:
Ok this is my 1 year anniversary with quantum boards.
240 w 400 k ( dimmed ) in 2x4 tent veg.
600 w 3000 k with red and uv (dimmed) 4x4 flower tent.
After using HPS and quantum boards I have to say hps is easier to get big dense buds with. I hear a whole bunch of numbers chucked around from guys who have a lot of gadgets and very little experience ( not many white whiskers on their chin )
Most of the advice you hear about distance from the canopy is absolutely wrong .... you will fry your plants . All this crap about cal mag and on is guys guys putting lights too close ..... its that simple.
After a year and almost 5 crops I will give them this:
1 . They are safer and cooler.
2. They save power .
But , what did you save getting less weight in hard dense bud ? Thats what its about.
A lot of my crop is now only good for making ice hash , then rosin so it doesn’t mold.
4 , 6 , and 1000 hps all grow bigger and more dense tops than Quantum boards.
This is not to say that its the wrong choice because the safety thing is major consideration.
I will continue because my grow is a small legal hobby in canada. My point here is that now that I have a fair bit of experience with both , these guys spouting numbers are doing just that.
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I bought a Canadian light Bc blonds for half a 4x8.Ran it dimmed down and got 2lbs at 350w veg and switched to 525w in flower. Try that with hps.
 
Sif1

Sif1

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MrNorth said:
Ok this is my 1 year anniversary with quantum boards.
240 w 400 k ( dimmed ) in 2x4 tent veg.
600 w 3000 k with red and uv (dimmed) 4x4 flower tent.
After using HPS and quantum boards I have to say hps is easier to get big dense buds with. I hear a whole bunch of numbers chucked around from guys who have a lot of gadgets and very little experience ( not many white whiskers on their chin )
Most of the advice you hear about distance from the canopy is absolutely wrong .... you will fry your plants . All this crap about cal mag and on is guys guys putting lights too close ..... its that simple.
After a year and almost 5 crops I will give them this:
1 . They are safer and cooler.
2. They save power .
But , what did you save getting less weight in hard dense bud ? Thats what its about.
A lot of my crop is now only good for making ice hash , then rosin so it doesn’t mold.
4 , 6 , and 1000 hps all grow bigger and more dense tops than Quantum boards.
This is not to say that its the wrong choice because the safety thing is major consideration.
I will continue because my grow is a small legal hobby in canada. My point here is that now that I have a fair bit of experience with both , these guys spouting numbers are doing just that.
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Great post. I did a 1yr test using several high LEDS. Valoya, Fluence, Ecospeed, Cali light works, King Spectrum and a few others and came to the exact same conclusion. Another thing I noticed they matured a bit quicker under but never quite got the size. I think they're ok it all depends on one's person circumstances, Budget, Climate, Experience and so forth.
 
Barristan Whitebeard

Barristan Whitebeard

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MrNorth said:
HLG 600
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Since when does Horticulture Lighting Group make an HLG 600 "w 3000 k with red and uv"?

Unless you were running separate supplemental lights? If not, where'd you purchase the light?

I'm also curious about any plant training you do and what is your average temperature/humidity lights on and lights off.

BTW I have more than a few white whiskers on my chin.
 
GrassBurner

GrassBurner

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I'd like to see some actual numbers, not seat of your pants observations. I'm no scientist, but this doesn't sound like a very scientific conclusion. You would need to have two identical grow setups, identical strains, and record data a few times a day at the least. It would be a very time and energy consuming affair, but that's the only way to offer a fact based assessment. There were 0 numbers in your post. Something like "HPS produced 425 grams, with a total power cost of $253 over a 16 week period", compared to QB which produced 315 grams, with a total power cost of $127 dollars, over a 16 week period" would be much more informative than how dense the nugs are.
 
PadawanWarrior

PadawanWarrior

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Barristan Whitebeard said:
Since when does Horticulture Lighting Group make an HLG 600 "w 3000 k with red and uv"?

Unless you were running separate supplemental lights? If not, where'd you purchase the light?

I'm also curious about any plant training you do and what is your average temperature/humidity lights on and lights off.

BTW I have more than a few white whiskers on my chin.
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They do have a HLG 600, but it doesn't have UV. I highly doubt this is what he has though.
horticulturelightinggroup.com

600W QB288 V2 R spec LED Kit

600W LED Module with 4x QB288 V2 Quantum Board using Samsung LM301H LED
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pop22

pop22

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HPS is dead technology and if you want to waste your money pumping out heat and blasting your plants with IR, fine. And if you used an HLG quantum board based lights, and grew a strains that should have dense buds ( not all do genetically ), YOU did something. I get buds so dense, grown under my Diablo lights, they can be hard to grind. Fluffy S loses every time. There's a good reason that I, a long time grower, switched to LED. Superior bud! Dense, terpene rich buds with high THC levels that have been way beyond any HPS grow I ever had.

And states are starting to crack down on energy consumption by home growers. several states are considering taxing you for electricity use they consider to be "beyond normal consumption.

I grow more bud with less energy use, in fact I cut my grow pwer useage from 2200kwh/hr to 1200khw/hr and grow more bud.

here's a Pineapple Poison grown under a Diablo light, running at 400 watts

Pineapple Poison pic2 -11-3-2020.jpg
 
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