pythium???

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D.Double.you.

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need help with a systemic fungi that does not effect the roots but fills up stems and branches (that used to be hollow) with a white substance making plants nutrient deficant and eventually will come out the top of buds if untreated but i cant seem to kill it only slow it down with hydrogen peroxide,alliette,and other systemic treatments, third grow same problem all with new moms!! no photos yet too young to show but i can see it under magnification. Anyone with knowledge of this shit?
 
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not sure, but the closest i can find is that its a type of pythium which usually attacks hydros roots as its water- born & carried, iam not.
 
makka

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that sounds fked up man have you any pics ??

ive never seen or heard any disease like this??
 
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makka said:
that sounds fked up man have you any pics ??
not yet workn on it, looks like fungi thru 30+ lumns mag all stems not hollow anymore nasty white fluffy sht thought it was calcium def,mag def...as same symptoms on leaves an it prob is as well by stoppn nutrients thru stems ? every new babe has it, scary sht.
ive never seen or heard any disease like this??
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makka

makka

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just a stab in dark but have you checked out

DISEASE: Southern blight, Southern stem blight, White mold

PATHOGEN: Sclerotium rolfsii (teleomorph: Athelia rolfsii)

HOSTS: More than 500 plant species including apple, peanut, potato, tomato; also many woody ornamentals, herbaceous annuals and perennials including aucuba, forsythia, azalea, hydrangea, viburnum, ageratum, begonia, columbine, coneflower, marigold, pansy, petunia, and zinnia.
 
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yes ive lookd at blight but theres no mold on outside of plants only inside stems, it attacks older leaves going brown from tips until scrunched up completely with a velvety feel to them. will get piks sorted, thanks 4 input.
 
AlphaPhase

AlphaPhase

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Get yourself some ridomil Gold sl. It's expensive but is a systemic fungicide and should fix you up if it's a fungus that is the problem, or pyhtium or furisium.
 
Dr.Pecker

Dr.Pecker

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Try some actinovate its a bacteria that eats mold.
just mix it with water and spray. Actinovate Biological Fungicide Control Pythium Rhizoctonia Fusarium OrganicPythium, Phytophthora, Fusarium, Rhizoctonia, Verticillium and other root decay fungi. Actinovate is a high concentration of a patented beneficial bacterium called Streptomyces lydicus 100% water soluble powder. This powerful new product ‑effectively suppresses/controls a wide range of soil borne diseases. http://www.amazon.com/Natural-Industries-LGAV0020-Actinovate-Fungicide/dp/B0052SUTWE/ref=sr_1_2/178-4631029-1582411?ie=UTF8&qid=1453152141&sr=8-2&keywords=actinovate+fungicide You dont need the big bag 20 grams would be more than enough.
 
AlphaPhase

AlphaPhase

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Dr.Pecker said:
Try some actinovate its a bacteria that eats mold.
just mix it with water and spray. Actinovate Biological Fungicide Control Pythium Rhizoctonia Fusarium OrganicPythium, Phytophthora, Fusarium, Rhizoctonia, Verticillium and other root decay fungi. Actinovate is a high concentration of a patented beneficial bacterium called Streptomyces lydicus 100% water soluble powder. This powerful new product ‑effectively suppresses/controls a wide range of soil borne diseases. http://www.amazon.com/Natural-Industries-LGAV0020-Actinovate-Fungicide/dp/B0052SUTWE/ref=sr_1_2/178-4631029-1582411?ie=UTF8&qid=1453152141&sr=8-2&keywords=actinovate+fungicide You dont need the big bag 20 grams would be more than enough.
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Nice! I hadn't known about this product. I switched to bennies in my hydro a couple months ago so will be grabbing a pack of this. Thanks for sharing.
 
Dr.Pecker

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AlphaPhase said:
Nice! I hadn't known about this product. I switched to bennies in my hydro a couple months ago so will be grabbing a pack of this. Thanks for sharing.
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I bought a new sprayer last fall so i'll be hitting the entire yard with that stuff this year. Most of the problems I have seem to come from the dead vegetation in the area. (Blight and molds) My garden was destroyed by bugs and blight I didn't get any apples or plumbs.
 
AlphaPhase

AlphaPhase

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Dr.Pecker said:
I bought a new sprayer last fall so i'll be hitting the entire yard with that stuff this year. Most of the problems I have seem to come from the dead vegetation in the area. (Blight and molds) My garden was destroyed by bugs and blight I didn't get any apples or plumbs.
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That sucks, when I lived back east I used to have mold and blight issues on my tomatoes mainly. The weather out there is perfect for those issues, especially the rain that is almost certain mid September. That sprayer is bad ass! I need to get one of those, looks like you can do 20x the work in 1/4 of the time!
 
Jimmy Sparkle

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I think if I remember correctly pythium Blight is mostly found on turf grasses but I can't verify my memory. I have had tomatoes, cucumber, pumpkin and some herbs get bacterial wilt wich is a bacterial infection that blocks the inside of stems with it's exudate. There are a whole bunch of other diseases that cause similar symptoms and its never good. I'm just not so sure if it infects cannabis but I don't see why not. Fire Blight has destroyed many fields of cannabis in India so just because I've never personally seen it in my world doesn't mean that it's not possible. With Cannabis being more accepted and grown more often in now even more places, we may see these "outdoor crop diseases" more frequently and ruining our indoor grows. Poor sanitation, bad genetics/weak plants , over ran genetics ect. This is why (just a guess and opinion only) that we are starting to see some really weird shit.
 
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Ive tried a benifisal bacteria H20 an 3 differant systemic fungisides, they all start to work by shrinking white stuff inside stems a bit but seems to immune itself after bout 3 sprays but il try yr suggestion nxt, this sht has other nasty traits under magnifi, black shiny pube like hairs(not alot)growing out of buds & under leaves & everything new i get already has it so is rife in my area undetected, because
wth TLC u can get thru a grow. Love to know if n e one else has seen these gross black shiny hairs??
 
Dr.Pecker

Dr.Pecker

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D.Double.you. said:
Ive tried a benifisal bacteria H20 an 3 differant systemic fungisides, they all start to work by shrinking white stuff inside stems a bit but seems to immune itself after bout 3 sprays but il try yr suggestion nxt, this sht has other nasty traits under magnifi, black shiny pube like hairs(not alot)growing out of buds & under leaves & everything new i get already has it so is rife in my area undetected, because
wth TLC u can get thru a grow. Love to know if n e one else has seen these gross black shiny hairs??
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this?
 
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Dr.Pecker said:
this?
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NO ITS ALL WHITE INSIDE STEMS AND SEEMS TO travel thru veins on leaves making them white instead of green, under magnification of 30+ you can see lots of white threads and a few shiney black strange hairs growing out of leaves & buds there gross, iam tryn to get some pics under magnif up to show properly.
 
Crab Pot

Crab Pot

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Sounds like you may have powdery mildew. Google pics of PM and let us know if it looks like what your dealing with.
 
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No its not PM as theres no mildew visable on outside of leaves or stems, it grows inside stems as very white fluffy mould where its usually hollow, thats how i found out (saw when harvesting) wat was goin wrong wth sickly plants i couldnt diagnose correctly as symtoms show up as nutrient defic startng wth calcium defic first but had been fed correctly, i think they cant uptake nutrients properly wth this problem??
 
Crab Pot

Crab Pot

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D.Double.you. said:
No its not PM as theres no mildew visable on outside of leaves or stems, it grows inside stems as very white fluffy mould where its usually hollow, thats how i found out (saw when harvesting) wat was goin wrong wth sickly plants i couldnt diagnose correctly as symtoms show up as nutrient defic startng wth calcium defic first but had been fed correctly, i think they cant uptake nutrients properly wth this problem??
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This is interesting... Can you post a couple of pics?
 
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