Psychadelibuds Underground Laboratory

@HydroRed @max420thc what do you guys think??

Can you just cut the scrog screen in a path to the filter, change it, then fix the net back up on the way out of the path with like zip ties or more string etc.. This way you might not disturb much of anything going in/out and you can leave your scog net up. The GG4 Im certain will be flop city by week 5-6 of flower so your gonna want to support it one way or another.

HydroRed said:

Can you just cut the scrog screen in a path to the filter, change it, then fix the net back up on the way out of the path with like zip ties or more string etc.. This way you might not disturb much of anything going in/out and you can leave your scog net up. The GG4 Im certain will be flop city by week 5-6 of flower so your gonna want to support it one way or another.

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Good idea Red.. So far the gg4 is holding up very well, but yeah I can tell by the lanky branches and also from what I hear about how dense she gets, I may be looking at trouble by completely removing the net. I know this doesn't pertain to the issue but my 413 Chem a couple days ago, all three of them was just flopped over to the floor... Had to tie them up to some bamboo.

But yeah I might even be able to crawl back into that particular corner where the filter is and just remove the net from that portion of the room (filters are directly in corners) and change it out then fold the corner back over the canopy.

If worse comes to worse, I will remove the net and go through and stake all the plants up. Super cropping so much early on gave me some super strong branches.

Thanks for the advice man, I will go down there now and take a gander at it and see if what you suggested would be a good option.

My only other option which I have done in the past during desperate times, during huge guerilla harvests, is to go out and find an actual freshly killed roadkill skunk and throw in the road close to my house. They smell for weeks.

However, finding the skunk, becomes the problem lol. And no, I don't mind doing it. Much better than eating three small square meals a day and shitting next to 30 men in a cell...

Day 35 12/12 "week 5"

Well I was in the process of watering/feeding when the lights flipped out. Quickly dropped what I was doing, grabbed my "cheapo" phone and snapped a few pics as the lights were finishing the fade out. Wow... Things are bulking up very very nicely now. I had to run into the house to grab my green light to continue feeding without interrupting the lights out period.

Man this odor is sick! Of course in a good way, but in an illegal state! This shit reeks! If you have to be a stealth grower and marijuana is illegal in your home town I would STRONGLY advise against cultivating the Chemdog... Unless, you have excellent odor control. This line is no joke... Everytime I get close to the room, especially walking down the hall I smell so many different odors combined into one... From Rotten, musky, murky, musty skunk spray and rotting meat, to a mixture of pine sol, turpentine, gasoline and bleach... Topped off with some burnt rubber funk and a cinnamon spice.

Did not get around to changing out the filters this morning, but that is definitely my first priority when lights come on this evening.

One good thing is through the day when more people are out and about, the smell shouldn't be as strong as the exhaust fan does not kick in as often and blow the air directly out due to the cooler night period temps.

Anyway, here is best I could do with the cheap phone. Should have wiped the lens a little bit as I believe it have some dust and possible resin on it lol.




Sorry for the shitty quality guys, but you can see they are getting their swell on

Damn man, if the Chemdog is killing you smell wise, whatcha gonna do with the RKS?

Sour Wreck said:

Damn man, if the Chemdog is killing you smell wise, whatcha gonna do with the RKS?

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I'm gonna invest in top notch odor control once this run is over... I am also going to add that phresh filter tonight at lights on. This is the reason the odor is so prominent. As described earlier, I used one "cheapo" literally worthless filter because the phresh slows the fan down too much. By adding the other phresh filter I will then have 2 good filters that will cut that odor down at least 80 percent if not completely...

Its the cheap filter I have allowing the odor to seep out. Been through this before lol.

I love the way it smells though, wish it was legal here.... Maybe on day in good time.

psychadelibud said:

I'm gonna invest in top notch odor control once this run is over... I am also going to add that phresh filter tonight at lights on. This is the reason the odor is so prominent. As described earlier, I used one "cheapo" literally worthless filter because the phresh slows the fan down too much. By adding the other phresh filter I will then have 2 good filters that will cut that odor down at least 80 percent if not completely...

Its the cheap filter I have allowing the odor to seep out. Been through this before lol.

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Cool, best of luck

Ona jell all around the building and UV smell killers ,you can put a UV into a exaust killing the smell as it exits the exaust.
Carbon filters , even carbon filters inside the room filtering the air , everything you have to do to keep the smell down,

Serious, smell is bad news, it always made me real nervous, .
UV smell killers are the bomb ,
They will however kill the smell right on the plant, so will ona gel but not as bad, the ona around the perimeter of the area,
Get a UV smell killers and mount it inside the exaust duct or even in the charcoal filter, the higher you can run the exaust into the air the more any smell would disepate,

Like Max mentioned, an in room scrubber running 24/7 would surely help a great deal if you have an extra fan and you could even use the cheapy filter you are swapping. Would be better than nothing at all.

max420thc said:

Serious, smell is bad news, it always made me real nervous, .
UV smell killers are the bomb ,
They will however kill the smell right on the plant, so will ona gel but not as bad, the ona around the perimeter of the area,
Get a UV smell killers and mount it inside the exaust duct or even in the charcoal filter, the higher you can run the exaust into the air the more any smell would disepate,

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Yea I use ona just need 1 gallon bucket of the pro in my area can't smell anything along with a filter that runs outside

I'm not sure I am understanding you correctly Max... I have heard that ONA and UV is great for odor control and ozone generators as well... But are you saying ONA and UV completely or even any at all literally removes odor from the buds? If it literally draws the odor out of the buds there is no way I would use it as personally I love terps.

If that is the case then I would maybe rather go with an extra filter maybe scrubbing air in the room. But first and foremost, I am gonna remove the cheapo carbon filter and replace it with the phresh. If temps become a problem, I will install a window AC unit.

Yeah they mess up the smell of your buds but he's saying to put it in the exhaust so it shouldn't come into contact with the room air.

psychadelibud said:

I'm not sure I am understanding you correctly Max... I have heard that ONA and UV is great for odor control and ozone generators as well... But are you saying ONA and UV completely or even any at all literally removes odor from the buds? If it literally draws the odor out of the buds there is no way I would use it as personally I love terps.

If that is the case then I would maybe rather go with an extra filter maybe scrubbing air in the room. But first and foremost, I am gonna remove the cheapo carbon filter and replace it with the phresh. If temps become a problem, I will install a window AC unit.

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I am a big fan of the smell myself.
Ona goes around the outside of the room, so if the smell pentrate floors and walls it can not escape the perimeter.
A UV smell killed in a exaust duct where the air is being forced outside the room not back into the room will get rid of the smell in any air as it leaves the building.
Carbon filters just running in the room will help keep the smell down in the room and will not kill the smell on the plants.
Also uv smell killers around the outside of the room or near peri.iter doors or openings, so long as that air is not dragging back into the rooms, all of these things will help kill and control the smell.
Venting through chimney stacks that force the air high above the grow will help disepate the smell .

dubekoms said:

Yeah they mess up the smell of your buds but he's saying to put it in the exhaust so it shouldn't come into contact with the room air.

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If my idea of replacing the the cheap Chinese filter with the Phresh does not work, then I will maybe throw some of these ona and uv ideas into the mix.

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max420thc said:

I am a big fan of the smell myself.
Ona goes around the outside of the room, so if the smell pentrate floors and walls it can not escape the perimeter.
A UV smell killed in a exaust duct where the air is being forced outside the room not back into the room will get rid of the smell in any air as it leaves the building.
Carbon filters just running in the room will help keep the smell down in the room and will not kill the smell on the plants.
Also uv smell killers around the outside of the room or near peri.iter doors or openings, so long as that air is not dragging back into the rooms, all of these things will help kill and control the smell.
Venting through chimney stacks that force the air high above the grow will help disepate the smell .

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Ahhh ok brother... Gotcha now. I could easily place them in my lung room and ducts no problemo. Thanks Max.

So i got to thinking today... The temps are warming up, as spring is coming into the picture and I had an idea to pop up in my brain.

How well would a window AC unit work in my room? I have a practically brand new window AC unit that I purchased last summer that was used to cool my former previous flower room, which is now my veg room. It was hot during the summer so of course the AC worked fine at that time, even before @HydroRed ever gave me the idea of a thermostatically controlled outlet to help control the temps. At that time I had the exhaust fans constantly pulling air and it still did a pretty good job keeping the room cool in a 2000 watt grow during the hottest days of July and August.

So here is my idea.. How about bringing the AC into the underground room? I know during he colder months the AC can basically freeze up and become useless (we still have another month or so of unpredictable freezing nights and days). So I had been researching this on Google and YouTube and had come across many of awesome ideas on constructing a modified AC box to help the AC stay warm on the intake and vents and not cause it to freeze up... Basically you deflect the warm air and you can use the AC in pretty much subzero temps.

But in my situation, I have a lung room. The hallway between the concrete wall and the grow room wall. If I installed the AC into the grow room and the back end of AC was situated in the hall (lung room) would this allow me to use my AC during cold temps IF instead of my hot exhaust air from the grow room being vented to the outside I vented it to up the inside of the lung room instead? I would still also be pulling in cool air through the exhaust which I currently already do, plus the AC cooling At the same time seems to be a golden ticket in keeping temps in check UNTIL after this run is over and I can purchase a mini split system.

Now just from my brainstorming, which I just had this idea pop into my mind today, seems like it would be a good idea... If I exhausted the hot air from the grow into the lung room, in my opinion would keep the lung room warma enough to run the AC?? Correct? Or am I missing something here?...... School me if I'm wrong. Lol.

Also, wouldn't this help to work in conjunction with my dehumidifier even further lowering my humidity as a plus?