Pruning - When do you take all the leaves off?

OZUT

Active Member
all their is on the other side of the argument is personal opinion and personal belief and neither come within light years of being scientifically proven fact, even though some here, like the one I am replying to claim it to be "fact."
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If you paid attention you would know that Dlively has proven science wrong over and over and over again in his garage where he grows 10 pounds per 4x4 tray every 30 days and is now working on cutting the flowering time in half by removing the entire root ball at 30 days into flower.
 

Brick Top

New Member
If you paid attention you would know that Dlively has proven science wrong over and over and over again in his garage where he grows 10 pounds per 4x4 tray every 30 days and is now working on cutting the flowering time in half by removing the entire root ball at 30 days into flower.


Riiiiiight ..... so according to you a garage grow is the very same thing as true scientific horticultural experimentation performed under highly controlled conditions with multiple control groups using the highest technology equipment invented and performed by an actual horticulturist. Or maybe you are claiming that a garage grow is an even higher more scientifically and technologically advanced form of scientific horticultural experimentation than would be performed by actual horticulturalists under highly controlled conditions with multiple control groups using the highest technology equipment invented.


WOW! Thanks pal ... you taught me something I never knew before.
 

OZUT

Active Member
uhhhh, I'm not sure if you failed to see the sarcasm in my post or if I'm failing to see it in yours...
 

Brick Top

New Member
uhhhh, I'm not sure if you failed to see the sarcasm in my post or if I'm failing to see it in yours...

Originally Posted by OZUT If you paid attention you would know that Dlively has proven science wrong over and over and over again in his garage where he grows 10 pounds per 4x4 tray every 30 days and is now working on cutting the flowering time in half by removing the entire root ball at 30 days into flower.

I apologize because I did totally miss the evidently intended sarcasm. Lately I have read some of the most inane things I have ever read about growing and I guess I have become conditioned to the point where when I see what appears to be more of the same I fail to see if it was intended as a joke and wrongly take it as just one more "Rain Man" trying to sound like Stephen Hawking.
 
All I know is that on my current plant, a single one, the bottom bud sittes were pathetic.. like only a few pistils coming out in week 7 of flowering. I am lighting with only a cheap-o t8 bulb. I put it att he bottom of my planter, and 2 days later,t he lower bud sites have well over septupled in size (7 times) I would say that light ont he buds DOES hel, but I am only a newb.... Im just rporting what I saw with my own eyes. It could be a coincidence
 

1oldgoat

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If a forum was a democracy, the nays would win hands down 47 against and 12 for removing leafs. So what has been proven here? Things aren't always what they seem to be? Just because it looks, sounds and walks like a duck...is it really a duck? How can we as a group, that after all, only want to know the best way possible to grow our plants and glean the information out of such a heated debate. As a noob at this game, to me leaving the leaves on makes way more sense than taking them off.

On the other hand dlively11's technique seems to have some merit, although in "5 years of growing indoors only the last year have I stripped the leaves and coincidentally my yields are triple what they were a year ago. Strains I HAVE done controlled comparisons are , Blue Cheese, Super Skunk, Blue Dream, Casey Jones, Chronic White Widow, Cheese, Sweet Tooth, Chem Dog, and more.... Grown in the same room same lighting and the trimmed tray out yielded the untrimmed tray two fold." seems to me a bit of a stretch.

So is it just black and white here? What is the reason dlively11's yields are so high? Can you grow traditionally and get the same yields per sq ft? Curious minds want to know!
 

Serapis

Well-Known Member
Some people are set in their ways and will never consider any method but their old tried and true as the right way.


If it works for you, do it.... It can't get any simpler than that....
 

1oldgoat

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All I know is that on my current plant, a single one, the bottom bud sittes were pathetic.. like only a few pistils coming out in week 7 of flowering. I am lighting with only a cheap-o t8 bulb. I put it att he bottom of my planter, and 2 days later,t he lower bud sites have well over septupled in size (7 times) I would say that light ont he buds DOES hel, but I am only a newb.... Im just rporting what I saw with my own eyes. It could be a coincidence
Yes it helped, but because the light was able to shine on the leafs more at the bottom of the plant. That's different than cutting leafs off to get the light down there. Or am I wrong?
 

Brick Top

New Member
All I know is that on my current plant, a single one, the bottom bud sittes were pathetic.. like only a few pistils coming out in week 7 of flowering. I am lighting with only a cheap-o t8 bulb. I put it att he bottom of my planter, and 2 days later,t he lower bud sites have well over septupled in size (7 times) I would say that light ont he buds DOES hel, but I am only a newb.... Im just rporting what I saw with my own eyes. It could be a coincidence
Like so many you connected the wrong dots. The light on the lower leaves is what made the buds grow, not light on the lower buds themselves.

If you knew how plants actually work, how they function, you would not have said. "that light ont he buds DOES hel,"
 

Illumination

New Member
Common Sense huh?!?! Common sense could just as easily tell me that the plant is wasting its energy and nutrients to maintain the dying leaf rather than generating a lil extra energy w/ the lil bit of green its got left (if it has any). Green= active chlorophyll = energy. Yellow= dead chlorophyll=no energy=blocking light for green leaves below. Or is my common sense-orator broken again?!
do some research...leaves are also the AUXIN factories... if a yellow leaf won't come off easily it is because the plant is retaining it for its auxin production...if you study a lil simple botany you will know that plants don't drop leaves due to loss of energy production or photosynthesis...it drops it when it no longer produces auxins...and I believe a plant really needs auxins...you agree?

Namaste':leaf:
 

Uncle Ben

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If you paid attention you would know that Dlively has proven science wrong over and over and over again in his garage where he grows 10 pounds per 4x4 tray every 30 days and is now working on cutting the flowering time in half by removing the entire root ball at 30 days into flower.
That's cold. :D
 

OZUT

Active Member
The man is an exceptionally talented farmer showing growers of the world the error of their ways...After all, he has been posting on MJ forums for a while now and is a self proclaimed expert
 
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