Pruning bushy Indica before flower

JKforty7

JKforty7

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Well, I guess we'll find out if I made the right choice here in a little bit but I'm pretty sure that I didn't cut off any grow shoots. I've never seen a bud growing on a fan leaf so I'm sure I didn't cause any hindering to a grow shoot..I cut off some fan leaves, didn't top the bitches.
Anywho, yes I have like 5 fans on low on them all the time. but I guess its hard to see the plant is over 4 feet wide, and all of that overlapping with my initial inexperience at watering was y I took proactive measures and pruned her a bit.

I'm sure this topic will be debated till the end of growing, but for my personal setup I believe I had to do this. No two grows are the same. And killer find! I like that article from GWE! Of course u gotta crossreference every source in this game, of course u can't just believe solely one site bro..

We can't go in there all straight-eyed...he'll know something's up.
 
Dr. Who

Dr. Who

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JKforty7 said:
Haha funny u say that Dr, I just bought tomato and pepper seeds for this upcoming spring..I just got into growing and I truly enjoy the experience so I wanted to have fun with growing some veggies and fruits too, but no, never done anything really before. What are trimming suckers lol, sorry imma noob. And yea I've found that even the growers Bible he wrote is very one sided and opinionated..

Also, clipping one and not another would be a perfect test. If some of the leaves overlapped and got wet from my inexperience of using a bottle to water early in life (I'm using coco) instead of a hydrogen halo which I bought a couple of weeks in then they had signs of being damp and almost moldy, so I don't wanna risk any BS so that's where I got the first idea. Then I figured overlaying might cause problems during budding, which I think was me being paranoid, and that's where this whole pruning mess came from..lol thanks for the REAL help I was looking for in the past comments from chareface on!

We can't go in there all straight-eyed...he'll know something's up.
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What are "suckers"? Hmm, to state this in an easy terminology.......OK,,,,,,A "sucker" would be the new "stalk" growth that grows out from the space between the main stem and side branch. (These also form between a side branch and a leaf point on MJ).

Picture of one on a tomato.
http://www.tomatodirt.com/images/tomato-sucker-1.jpg

Check this video.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UbGHqxNMAhs

Anyway, suckers are just that! They "suck" the strength from the main area's of the plant to form unneeded extra flowering points.

That should help.
 
JKforty7

JKforty7

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Hell yea that helps a lot Dr! That's smart, so they make nice fat crowns and give them they energy..

We can't go in there all straight-eyed...he'll know something's up.
 
Alienwidow

Alienwidow

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charface said:
I TRY to have my trimming done by the time actual flowers are present. But your saying I could safely do the entire job
at the end of stretch without stunting them.

If so that would be way better for me. wouldnt lose the ones that were going to reach, while getting rid of the stuff
that appears after I trim that I just leave now.

Hopefully you will verify this.
if not Ill just try one.

peace
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Trim after the stretch and youll be sorry. I tried it and i just lost yield. Gain of nothing. The plant has already created the bud sites and is moving energy to them.
If you trim before flip or early after then the bud sites go crazy during stretch and youll have closer buds on sparse plants and bigger buds on connecting bud plants. Two plants next to each other, one trimmed up and one not will show you this.
as far as shade leaves. I dont trim those. They do make photosynthesis happen and i dont mess with them.
I trim the bottoms of my plants and up in the middle of short squat plants. All that scrag doesnt amount to two grams anyway. Trim it out. Focus on the top money making product because thats whatll have people coming back. Reisin coated fully developed hard buds. Trim goes faster and youll be happier. :):):)
 
JKforty7

JKforty7

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Thanks alien! So ur saying I fucked up trimming the fan leaves, but I should trim the 'suckers' so the beautiful queens on top don't get robbed by some pesky begging girls?
Even tho I trimmed some big fan leaves I'll be cool to veg them back then flower and have nice buds? I got the extra time to bounce back from me fucking up before I flip if need be.
Btw I kno I'm stoned but I trimmed yesterday those lower fan leaves and I went in there today and I swear them bitches shot up over night! they were torso high yesterday, and today they were higher than my chest! And I'm 6' 4"! Might have fucked up but now the Colas seem to like it...

We can't go in there all straight-eyed...he'll know something's up.
 
neo12345

neo12345

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The defoliation technique has to be done throughout the plants life, so that the plant gets used to it and you train the plant. Otherwise it can stunt growth and effect yields, lot's of people read these articles and just pull off their leaves at the wrong time which is why they say it doesn't work.

You haven't pulled off many leaves by the looks of it and giving them a couple of weeks to grow back will be fine, though you will end up with more leaves than before which is why you pulled them off in the first place! lol

Pulling the leaves off releases a chemical in the plant which tells it it's lost some leaves so it puts more effort into growing leaves, which is probably why you are seeing a growth spurt right now. You probably haven't taken enough leaves this time to give you the desired effect but you could try this technique on your next grow? You won't have done any damage now though so don't worry about it!

Good luck with your grow!!
 
tyke1973

tyke1973

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i just leave the plants to do there own thing,no need to pick leaves of just add more light put this under a 600 on its own and flower at around 2 ft if ya got the space and ya will pull a lb from it easy if your feeding is done right and the only part of the plant i would attack is the bottoms,but this is not needed i just like to force all the growth into the top buds rather than wasteing nutes on the fluff that you will get at the bottom.
 
JKforty7

JKforty7

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Yes next run I'm definitely gonna try that technique throughout their lives. Thanks for the articles guys

We can't go in there all straight-eyed...he'll know something's up.
 
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