Well I for one am with you (being a libertarian) in believing since it doesn't affect me, I don't really care if people of the same sex get married or have a problem with it. But it's not oppressing people to not grant someone a right they made up and never had. There never was gay marriage that was taken away from them - the definition of marriage has been man and women since the dawn of time - while you can disagree with people on the definition, to say those people are evil and oppressing the rest because they don't want to change it is demagoging an honest point of view. Also while I again err on the side of liberty, you're old and out of touch if you don't think this cultural shift is having an effect on our kids. I'm not sure if you have had a millenial teenager -- I have. Bisexuality and same sex expirimentation is widespread from MIDDLE SCHOOL up today. And we live in a relatively conservative area. Now maybe you don't have a problem with that, but it wasn't like that when I grew up in the 80s so if you're cool with it say so but don't pretend it's not how it is. Maybe you are just out of touch and don't have a kid growing up in public schools these days. Believe me it's an eye opener. Oh and also the attitude is completely that it's no big thing. Also not the way it was when I grew up. I'm not saying when I grew up was some awesome or perfect time, but I do think they can wait til they're out of middle school before orgies and buggery (that's what high school's for??). That being said, I'd still rather live in a world where parents teach their kids values rather than having people penalized or restricted by the force of government. It's amazing how many people on here want to free the weed but don't believe in a lot of other liberties.
I am thinking about this.
On the one hand I want to discuss Some of it, but on the other hand we already reach a positive conclusion with your next to last sentence.
"That being said, I'd still rather live in a world where parents teach their kids values rather than having people penalized or restricted by the force of government."
IMO that is exactly what we should all strive for as Americans. No that we accept something we do not agree with, such as homosexuality, or polygamy, but that we respect each other enough to say that I will not oppress my fellow American who is not harming me and that we will stand up in the face of governmental oppression together before we decide to like or dislike each other as neighbors. To me, one of the most Unamerican things we can do is to tell each other how to live our lives.
Growing up in So Cal (I was in high school in the late 80's) you end up with all kinds of friends and acquaintances. I have friends who are gay, I have a couple of friends who are trannys. They say the same things. They just want the same rights that every other American has. And to be treated with respect as a fellow citizen and human being. Seems reasonable. I'm not saying you, but I have noticed some serious hostility towards LGBT people in the cannabis community. It's sad, really.
Anyway, I agree. No matter what's actually happening in society, I want the freedom to raise and teach my kid as I see fit, not as the gov't sees fit. And certainly not by governmental force.