Project TGA Cherry Bubba

indipow82 said:

I never encountered a OG in CA OR CO that did remind me of any kush I smoked back in the M.E. IMO.

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ME? Maine? What kush did you compare the OG too out of curiosity, i also concur with that conclusion. as well.

Israel has medical! Was tolerated pretty well for the most part before unlike other very close regions...

cool man good info to know, if i ever visit the middle east i know where im goin

Kaptain Kron said:

cool man good info to know, if i ever visit the middle east i know where im goin

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Tel Aviv is the spot man! Great hash non stop. Keep it under 15 grams because that is limit for personal.We get Charras from India and it is amazing and worth the few extra shekels. and a Tolah is a finger of hash, like over a 1/4 of hash for about fifty bucks.

FYI the Hashish in Israel is controlled by the Hesbala and to buy it its actually committing genocide if your Jewish
However laboratory testing and research of Cannabis is about 2 decades ahead of the USA

Sub

Cannabis contains over 400 known compounds. Of these, there is a group of about 70 compounds called cannabinoids, made up of molecules with 21 carbon atoms. THC (tetrahydrocannabinol) and CBD (cannabidiol) are the two most prominent cannabinoids and they have been shown in scientific studies to have medical benefits for humans.
Another group of compounds in the Cannabis plant are called TERPENOIDS. The terpenoids are made up of repeating units of a 5-carbon compound called isoprene. Terpenoids give marijuana its characteristic aroma. There appears to be over 200 terpenoid compounds in the Cannabis plant.

Plant cannabinoids are found only in the Cannabis plant, but terpenoids are found in countless plant species - about 20,000 terpenoids have been identified by scientists. Terpenoids are considered essential oils. Terpenoids are found in herbs such as mint, sage, citrus peel, some flowers, aromatic barks and woods. Terpenoids are common components of the human diet and are recognized by the FDA as safe for human consumption.

It appears that the terpenoid compounds in marijuana have clinical effects, that is, they work with the cannabinoids to help with symptoms. This is called synergy or the "entourage effect", a term coined by Raphael Mechoulam, a prominent cannabis researcher. Synergy and the entourage effect mean that "the interaction of two or more substances produces combined effects that are greater than the sum of their separate effects".

Here is a list of some of the terpenoids found in cannabis and their clinical effects:

Limonene - this terpenoid is also found in lemons; it works with CBD to give antidepressant effects and stimulates the human immune system; in mice it was found to work with CBD to decrease anxiety and depression; works synergistically with CBD and CBG to kill breast cancer cells; works with THC to decrease GERD (reflux)

Myrcene - this terpenoid is also found in hops; it works with CBD to block inflammation; works as pain-killer in mice studies when combined with CBD and THC; is sedating and was found to potentiate sleep time synergistically with THC

Alpha-pinene - terpenoid also found in pine needles; it works as anti-inflammatory when combined with CBD; bronchodilation (opens lung airways) when combined with THC in human studies; anti-MRSA (Staph infection) with CBD, CBG (cannabigerol) and CBN (cannabinol); works as wide spectrum antibiotic

Linalool - this terpenoid is also found in lavender; has anti-anxiety effects with CBD and maybe CBG; causes sedation in mice studies; works as local anesthetic with THC; anticonvulsant and anti-glutamate with CBD, THCV and CBDV

Nerolidol - this terpenoid is also found in oranges; appears to have sedative qualities; inhibits fungal growth with CBC (cannabichromene)

Beta-caryophyllene - this terpenoid is found in Echinacea; it has anti-inflammatory properties with CBD; protects stomach cells with THC; binds to CB2 receptors with THC giving analgesic and anti-inflammatory properties

Phytol - this terpenoid is also found in green tea; it appears to block the breakdown of GABA (a neurotransmitter that helps to control anxiety)

Caryophyllene oxide - terpenoid also found in lemon balm; acts as an anti-fungal

The medical effects of the interaction of terpenoids with the cannabinoids is a big area of research and being investigated by many labs. As research is published and our knowledge grows, patients will benefit from being able to select the specific cannabis medication that contain the compounds that work best for their symptoms. More to come....

Thanks to O'Shaughnessy's Journal of Cannabis in Clinical Practice and Dr. Ethan Russo for the information on the terpenoids. Your efforts are most appreciated!

Nice read Sub, I'll mark this one for later regurgitation. I am excited to see your Cherry Bubba. I actually had a similar idea. I have a Bubba Kush and an NYC diesel that I keep in my harem and am looking for a suitable stud. I was gonna use the JTR though. I want a good flavor added, though they both taste great already, TGA flavors are unparalleled. You gonna go to A'dam this year?

Speaking of terpine profiles, why is it some of the stuff I am growing smells like a lemon cool with a hint of rocket fuel?

Excuse the hijack, just dont anyone move and noone will get hurt.

NightbirdX said:

Nice read Sub, I'll mark this one for later regurgitation. I am excited to see your Cherry Bubba. I actually had a similar idea. I have a Bubba Kush and an NYC diesel that I keep in my harem and am looking for a suitable stud. I was gonna use the JTR though. I want a good flavor added, though they both taste great already, TGA flavors are unparalleled. You gonna go to A'dam this year?

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Actually no I am hosting the School of Dank on the weekend of the 24th.
I decided last year to start having my own gig so were doing it up and donating at the ticket sales to charity for an Autism foundation in Washington.
It sold out the very first day so we already raised 12k for the charity wish us luck if it works it will go public and go on the road '

Here is the basic outline for the event

Subcool's School of Dank
With The Green Avengers
A Charity Event for Autistic Children
Card Holders only
Tickets are 60$ ( SOLD OUT)
MUsic, Glass Blowing demo's, Bud bar, Tincture tasting and much much more
Nov 25,26,27th

Seattle Washington

Friday evening
Around 7.30
Meet and Greet with Subcool and MzJill
I can take the stage around 8 and formally welcome everyone.
Class Starts Saturday at 10 am
Super Soil
Room Construction
Atmosphere
Seed Starting and Phenotype selection
Cloning with MzJIll
Topping
Transplanting
Top Dressing and feeding featuring live demonstration
>>>>Break for lunch<<<<<
Lighting
Bondage
Super Cropping
Open Discussion Garden Managment
Organic Fade
End Day 1 Sessions
Begin Open Panel Discussion
4.20 The Party Starts
Day 2 Session Sunday
Amber Alert harvesting discussion
Curing with MzJill
Cannabis Tincture making
Cookie Class
Bubble Making

Kaptain Kron said:

ok sub that still didnt answer my question and no i have not ever been i dont see how thats relevant unless your saying that you saw OG over there and that it was native. Is that the case? i was just curious if you had some unknown info, ive researched OG extensively in the states in person, and on the internet as well. All the credible information i can find on OG says that it most def is NOT a kush, its a hybrid, a sativa dominant hybrid at that. Bubba is by far my favorite kush, BESIDES, somthing that was goin around cali about 8-10 years ago that was just bein called KUSH no name in front or behind, just KUSH, havnt had anything kush since that had that flavor, the closest has been pre 98 bubba. We know thats a kush for sure.

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i have pounds of the "kush" you seek. the strain has been in the same growers hands for 18years and when he got it he said it was just called kush. its super dark green, dense lollipop nugs and by far the best kush smell iv ever smelled it takes all the oldschool guys back acouple years. and a lab test result of 19.1thc. i plan to grab some clones when i get a chance. but the growers had the exact strain sense before they even had og kush or even chem dog to make og kush lol.

You do understand that cannabis has been grown in the region I described for 3000 years correct?

appearently not sub.
btw youre the man, just cracked my 2nd chernobyl, and im hoping its the same pheno because the last one blew my socks off. also starting a dairy queen soon, pretty pumped.

subcool said:

FYI the Hashish in Israel is controlled by the Hesbala and to buy it its actually committing genocide if your Jewish
However laboratory testing and research of Cannabis is about 2 decades ahead of the USA

Sub

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All depends, everyone I know there works through their family and not the typical tourist underground scene. To assume all hash there is controlled by hezbollah is always a topic in Israel. I would say a lot does come from them but not all.

indipow82 said:

All depends, everyone I know there works through their family and not the typical tourist underground scene. To assume all hash there is controlled by hezbollah is always a topic in Israel. I would say a lot does come from them but not all.

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Fair Enough.
We have a good friend who grows TGA on the west bank and he actually quit medicating until he could produce his own I am sure the politics there are more complex than I could imagine.
He always explained anytime you paid for Hash in his area it could possibly support the hesbala I am sure like here not everything is imported so good on you for keeping it local.

Sub

subcool said:

Fair Enough.
We have a good friend who grows TGA on the west bank and he actually quit medicating until he could produce his own I am sure the politics there are more complex than I could imagine.
He always explained anytime you paid for Hash in his area it could possibly support the hesbala I am sure like here not everything is imported so good on you for keeping it local.

Sub

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Well, if you are ever out in the Middle east hit me up, I may be there with some goodies waiting!!

subcool said:

So I thought it was time to actually tell everyone my plans for the Bubba Kush I have recently added to my stable of strains. Dioxide has already been hard at work and is currently testing the Ripped Bubba but being the old man of the group I am starting do take my time so I am taking a different route than a normal poly hybrid.

First why this cut? Its my favorite from a pool of about 15 I have had the opportunity to study traits of. The cutting came through The Green Avengers and was run my the owner of the Mist prior to both Dioxide and myself running her.

My project will outcross the Bubba Kush with Space Dude and then select from that gene pool a Kush dominant male and then back cross to the original BK mom.

This process will lock down more of the traits of the Kush while adding flavor, resin and hopefully increased hash production.

So it will take several months to run out the CB ( Cherry Bubba) and select the proper male to back cross to the mother.

Stay tuned

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hay sub... i know your not big on the indicas in general.. but i am an indica man!!!! esp. when it comes to kush and esp when it comes to bubba!! its about time you put out some shit like this!!! i will be buying some off ya

keepitcoastal said:

i have pounds of the "kush" you seek. the strain has been in the same growers hands for 18years and when he got it he said it was just called kush. its super dark green, dense lollipop nugs and by far the best kush smell iv ever smelled it takes all the oldschool guys back acouple years. and a lab test result of 19.1thc. i plan to grab some clones when i get a chance. but the growers had the exact strain sense before they even had og kush or even chem dog to make og kush lol.

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YES!! FUCK someone who knows what the fuck im talkin about shit man its been years since anyone has popped up with anything like that and you described it to a T keep me informed man maybe we can do a lil trade if you get your hands on it, that is MY holy grail of strains. But we shall agree to disagree about OG being a kush sir except for maybe abusive which is an OG cross not pure OG.

How might someone find out when and where you are hosting these, do you post them on your website and have i just been that lax in my viewing of it lol. Any plans to do one of those down here in cali?

subcool said:

Actually no I am hosting the School of Dank on the weekend of the 24th.
I decided last year to start having my own gig so were doing it up and donating at the ticket sales to charity for an Autism foundation in Washington.
It sold out the very first day so we already raised 12k for the charity wish us luck if it works it will go public and go on the road '

Here is the basic outline for the event

Subcool's School of Dank
With The Green Avengers
A Charity Event for Autistic Children
Card Holders only
Tickets are 60$ ( SOLD OUT)
MUsic, Glass Blowing demo's, Bud bar, Tincture tasting and much much more
Nov 25,26,27th

Seattle Washington

Friday evening
Around 7.30
Meet and Greet with Subcool and MzJill
I can take the stage around 8 and formally welcome everyone.
Class Starts Saturday at 10 am
Super Soil
Room Construction
Atmosphere
Seed Starting and Phenotype selection
Cloning with MzJIll
Topping
Transplanting
Top Dressing and feeding featuring live demonstration
>>>>Break for lunch<<<<<
Lighting
Bondage
Super Cropping
Open Discussion Garden Managment
Organic Fade
End Day 1 Sessions
Begin Open Panel Discussion
4.20 The Party Starts
Day 2 Session Sunday
Amber Alert harvesting discussion
Curing with MzJill
Cannabis Tincture making
Cookie Class
Bubble Making

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I'm still confused... I thought OG just meant Ocean Grown
This OG Kush, I've heard it too came from Pbud long time ago.

^^ yes but its not KUSH thats the misnomer its a sativa dominant hybrid that someone created.