Process of crossing 2 female autoflowers?

MATTYMATT726

MATTYMATT726

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Am i right that you can cross 2 FEMALE autoflowers by spraying 1 with Collateral Silver and than when the pollon sacks are about to burst open, brush it on the 2nd plant? Can you just let them polinate without the brushing or do you need to have a fan in there? I've read this can cause hermie traits, but if both are at F4 to F7 would they have less a chance to have hermie traits and since both plants are so far stabilized would there be very few phenos? Ty.
 
MATTYMATT726

MATTYMATT726

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BobThe420Builder said:
Either process works

And selfing is how fem seeds are made so slim chance of hermies
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I saw briefly reading that you should start the self pollinating plant a few weeks before the mother? 2 to 3 sound good? Any other useful info to take in? I don't want to go breeding, just have some strains that if i crossed 2 one time, they might make a good balance of the 2. With how far each strain are stabilised for their traits would there be few variances in new seeds such as plant A dom, plant B dom and 50/50 or would it be just as bad as an F1 being multiple phenotypes? Thank you for the reply.
 
budolskie

budolskie

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I am also doing this with fast buds gsc and into tthe 2nd week of spraying, not with q homemade spray with 1 i purchased on ebay
 
budolskie

budolskie

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in my understanding in what i have been reading, if you are using 2 strains to cross you are making a f1 and will have a variety of phenos.
 
MATTYMATT726

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budolskie said:
in my understanding in what i have been reading, if you are using 2 strains to cross you are making a f1 and will have a variety of phenos.
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But here is what im saying. If you take 2 F1/S1 strains and cross them, since each strain might have 5 phenos since not bread for specific traits, a cross could be 5+5+1 perfect mix of both phenos of the new crossed F1. If the 2 plants you start with were af F7 and F7 they have been brrad extensively to a stable strain with most likley down to 1 specfic pheno. So if you cross these 2 very stable plants you would get plant A pheno, plant B pheno and 50/50 mix or about 3 different phenos for the new F1. This is what im asking someone that makes seeds themselves with experience not just reading. I've read alot XD
 
Dirk8==D~Diggler

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MATTYMATT726 said:
But here is what im saying. If you take 2 F1/S1 strains and cross them, since each strain might have 5 phenos since not bread for specific traits, a cross could be 5+5+1 perfect mix of both phenos of the new crossed F1. If the 2 plants you start with were af F7 and F7 they have been brrad extensively to a stable strain with most likley down to 1 specfic pheno. So if you cross these 2 very stable plants you would get plant A pheno, plant B pheno and 50/50 mix or about 3 different phenos for the new F1. This is what im asking someone that makes seeds themselves with experience not just reading. I've read alot XD
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Hopefully someone scientific comes in with a precise answer but I’m pretty sure It’s a far greater crap shoot than that
 
MATTYMATT726

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Dirk8==D~Diggler said:
Hopefully someone scientific comes in with a precise answer but I’m pretty sure It’s a far greater crap shoot than that
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That's why im asking. How much if at all does it vary between 2 F1s or 2 F7s being crossed. I have to assume it does make some sort of difference.
 
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MATTYMATT726 said:
That's why im asking. How much if at all does it vary between 2 F1s or 2 F7s being crossed. I have to assume it does make some sort of difference.
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So I’m going to try to make this as simple of an answer since it’s kinda one of those “well yes and no...kinda but not really” answers.

If the parent strains are stable that tends to mean they have less variation in their genes. So they can technically pass on less varying material to the new hybrid. (This is the yes, kinda part)

However with that being said, Though the parents are “stable”, it’s from a combination of recessive and dominate traits. This leads to the “no, not really” part of the answer. When these two stable strains get crossed, dependent on what dominate and recessive genetic material each parent strain has and what is passed on will determine how much variability there is in the new hybrid.Chances are there will be a lot and you will see multiple phenotypes

I hope that makes sense.
 
budolskie

budolskie

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Hop&Buds said:
So I’m going to try to make this as simple of an answer since it’s kinda one of those “well yes and no...kinda but not really” answers.

If the parent strains are stable that tends to mean they have less variation in their genes. So they can technically pass on less varying material to the new hybrid. (This is the yes, kinda part)

However with that being said, Though the parents are “stable”, it’s from a combination of recessive and dominate traits. This leads to the “no, not really” part of the answer. When these two stable strains get crossed, dependent on what dominate and recessive genetic material each parent strain has and what is passed on will determine how much variability there is in the new hybrid.Chances are there will be a lot and you will see multiple phenotypes

I hope that makes sense.
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This is sort of what i was getting at but hard to explain as just learning about genetics myself.
Upon what i have read and gathered i think you will get a variety of phenos crossing any 2 differnt strains making f1 seeds.

These f1 seeds you will need do futher crossing either making f2's or bx1's to to cut down the phenos in new cross.....

Thats the way i picked it up reading...

No better way to learn then discussing amoungst ourselfs lads please give your thoughts
 
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