Problems? Brainstorm

Grenier5413

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I had some trouble with my plants I believe I am getting it under control but I'm not sure. I have twelve exotic Thai clones from exotic seeds feminized seeds mother I have. The clones went for three weeks in Scott's seed starter with fifty percent pearlite added. Plain water and superthrive where the only thing given. I then transplanted into ffof straight up with a tablespoon of desert bat guano. I veged them with just plain water for around d thirty five days. At day thirty I noticed what I believe to be cal mag deficiency on the older leaves. I feed them Epsom salts at a tablespoon per gallon with powdered eggshells in the water. I also feed a feeding of alaskin fish 5-1-1. Two waterings later I feed sea com at 0-4-4 tablespoon per gallon. A week later i feed a Cal mag supplement and put them into flower and things went on time and it looks like things are not progressing. I'm in the third week of flower and have feed tiger bloom twice over the last three weeks. It looks like things are progressing on two of the plants still. My ph of the soil was at five point five and not sure for how long apparently my meter was junk because my new one led me to that a week ago. It's been at six five for a week now. The only other thing that happened was in there third week of veg the ventilation shit out and I had temps in the 90 for a few days. Any suggestions would be Great. Because I'm still not one hundred percent on what exactly the problem was.
 

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chemphlegm

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If fox farms is in the mix I'd look to it first, but thats just me. shit causes much raucous around here
 

Grenier5413

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Yeah my next run will be different I added in dolomite lime and some greensand on this batch. And I'm going to hold off on the feedings until two weeks after bloom.
 

Grenier5413

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I believe I had a Cal mag deficiency to start. Then heat stress and low pH caused further damage similar to potassium deficiency. Someone else thaught it was to much phosphorus.
 

Grenier5413

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Im right in the middle of building a new flowering room because I have two more cycles ready to go. Hopefully I can figure this crap out. I have five new strains started. Hopefully they will do good together without to much variation in the feedings. I'd like to use the ffof without giving any extra food except for maybe towards the end of bloom. Does anyone use extra nutes with ffof and when do you usually start to feed.
 

Grenier5413

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I've got blimburn purple grizzly kush, sour diesel, girl scout cookies. Big Buddha King Kong and black dog from Humboldt seed. Hopefully they will get along together. Any suggestions or input is greatly appreciated.
 

Dr. Who

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Hmmm, Too much P, N should have been fine.
Adding to a soil and then adding more of other things, then using FF Big Bud.....WAY to much P....

Um, ever consider trying strains that are more forgiving to learn how first.....Not trying to be a dick but, you might do better to learn how to care for a potted house plant first......You're pounding the shit out of that plant with nutrition it doesn't need.....or at the least - doing it wrong.....

Try (lets get simple) Jacks classic citrus at 1/4 tsp a gallon.....all grow long! Feel the "need" to "boost"? DON'T!
Start feeding the plant in FFOF at around day 25-30 of it being in that pot...Earlier, if it shows low N...

No wonder I gave up coming into this section.

BTW - Add a rounded 1/2 cup of Dolomite lime to a bag of FFOF and mix it in well (slowly as you turn it)..Then use it. OF goes light on Ca and Mg over time.....
 

Grenier5413

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Well I get your point for one and I do have a pretty good understanding for what I'm doing and what happened. I'm trying g to gather a collective to help fine tune my methods quicker than on my own. I know I dove in deep but hey that's how you learn. And it woulda been helpful of FF to state some nutrient levels on there soil. Not very specific. I also have alot of beautiful house plants from four varietys of pothos, cacti lemon tree lime tree Jade spider plants orchids money tree. I'm pretty good with them. Anyways point tooken. I also might not of screwed up so bad if I didn't trust cheap meters. But thanks for your help I did listen to your advice by the way as I said in the beginning it's a brainstorm more info more data means a better understanding of things..
 

Dr. Who

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Well I get your point for one and I do have a pretty good understanding for what I'm doing and what happened. I'm trying g to gather a collective to help fine tune my methods quicker than on my own. I know I dove in deep but hey that's how you learn. And it woulda been helpful of FF to state some nutrient levels on there soil. Not very specific. I also have alot of beautiful house plants from four varietys of pothos, cacti lemon tree lime tree Jade spider plants orchids money tree. I'm pretty good with them. Anyways point tooken. I also might not of screwed up so bad if I didn't trust cheap meters. But thanks for your help I did listen to your advice by the way as I said in the beginning it's a brainstorm more info more data means a better understanding of things..
Thanks for the kind reply. Pardon me if I came across frosty.....

Your entering the world of Cannabis packaged goods....The makers basically are simply out for money - yours.
Nutrient makers (some) make the wildest claims about using their products I have ever seen....The feed charting most give is, well, stupid for the most part.
There are good ones out there....Some are stout and work well if reduced.....It 's all in the ratio's....For the most part. The best bet for nutrients is to mix and match for the right amounts at the right time.
Some give you a good 3 part but, it's up to you to dial in for differing strains.....It's how it goes and you have fussy plants and heavy feeders - all in the same family lines.....

That's a learning process....what for what...and when to use this vs. that...

2-1-2 and 3-1-2 are good places to start for ratio's....
 

Grenier5413

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Yeah that's what I'm figuring out is to not buy into the propaganda of these companies. I thaught it seemed pretty hardcore. I think I got a good handle on the feeding ratio. And I understand it's cool I dont usually get to wound out oh and I forgot my pineapple plant in the list before.LOL I mainly chose theses strains for my outdoor grow but I figured I might as well go with some indoor as well so it's my new venture. I'll have my flower chamber finished up next week hopefully and I'll have to figure out how to fine tune all the climate control stuff.
 
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