Pretty cool way to keep some bugs off.

BWilly

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Hey guys, just to clarify some facts I do grow outdoors but they are in 7 gallon buckets so salt doesn't really matter to me. I find that the soil on my land is just to barren already to grow and in my area some other influences cause me to not grow in direct soil. The mulberry tree on the other hand costs not too bad I think they range from about 35 to 50 dollars depending on weight. The plants that are older than me are parennial clones from about 1985 (date we first started) so they are technically older than me (only 21 =p). People who don't continue to clone baffle me because clone after clone produce pure female and a usually thicker bud of higher or the same quality.
 
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South Texas

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I am VERY excited about this thread... Now We are getting to the nut-cutting. First topic, Mulberry Trees. Like fig Trees, people don't like them because they attract bees, bugs, etc. The glass is 'half empty' line of thought. The half full thought is that the tree keeps pest away from the prized plants. Zinnias, (them pretty little flowers) are also used to attract pest, to keep them out of the garden. Seamaiden, maybe you could plant one in a container on the deck, or nearby. The berries are very good to eat, but most times are infested with worms, so beware. They are considered trash trees, too much trouble in the perfect world. People that have them would be glad to have somebody dig up a few baby plants growing around the base of the Mother tree.
As far as perennials goes, B Willy, here is my belief. My first Vegetable garden was in 68, at 8 years old. My passion & main hobby is growing ANYTHING. First pot high, 11 years old, quit in 1980. Started seriously growing & learning in Oct. 06. Rejuve, cloning, all that exciting stuff. I started broad-casting seeds about 10 years ago, vegetable seeds. They are cheap. 1000 Mustard seeds may cost .50 cents. Throw them out in a good spot, walk away. Same goes with pot seeds. Pot has been growing wild for only about 2,000 years. They mutate, evolve, adapt to the local environment, depending on the soil, weather, pest & strain. Only the strong survive. To expound upon what B Willy is saying, which he is correct, is my theory, due to all the information that we have access to, is that any "Land-Race" strain that basically fits the same living environment from where it thrived for 1,000's of years will thrive in your local if there is a basic match. The Sativa does well in Mexico, the Indica thrived well in other parts of the world. The Equator is the mirror image environment. If I'm 2,000 miles North of the Equator, then any & all land race strains 2,000 miles South should feel at home in my back yard, if the elevation & rain fall is close. We can control watering, PH, nutes, with just a shake of this & that from bags of stuff. I am not in a position to start my "Forever" plot yet, but when I get to that point, among the things I have mentioned, I am going to research building the perfect planting bed for growing asparagus. The soil conditions between the two, to me, is the perfect route to take. I have to tell you people about the growing addiction that I have. Sneaking popcorn out of the house to plant is nothing. Buying 15 bean soup packages at the store & planting rows of them is fucking awesome! The Color, the variety is amazing. My Friends dubbed it as the "PSYCHO Row". Sorry about the long writ, I just get excited about my passion. PS; When starting the "forever" plot, the rule of tell no one multiplies by 100.
 

Seamaiden

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That's an idea, ST, I will consider it. :) My folks have a lovely fruitless mulberry. It does drop leaves, but they're very big and NOTHING like f'ing pine needles.

I can't believe you bought bags of soup mix and planted the beans and got them to grow, I always thought that stuff like that would be either too processed or too old for it to work. I LOVE BEANS. Why... there's almost no bean I don't like. My favorites. though, are pinto beans, black-eyed peas, pigeon peas and chick peas. I had to go a couple of years not eating so much bean due to a medical condition that caused kidney stones (the most common kidney stone is a calcium oxalate crystal, I had hypercalcemia, thusly, anything high in oxalic acid made it very easy to grow crystals, and while my kidneys are still chock full o' stones, at least I'm not growing new ones), so I had to limit certain foods and drinks. Not anymore! TOOT TOOT! said Mr. Toad.
 

BWilly

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ST, you remind me of a few friends and when I read your thread about your growing addiction it made me laugh.....I am high though
 

Seamaiden

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I read it when I wasn't high and I still chortled. :D I think it kicks ass. As a matter of fact, if the system lets me I'mma rep him for it.
 

bizart

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How about ants? they are storming the main stalk which is about 3 inches in diameter now.. not sure if i was to spray ant stuff it would absorb too much in to the plant..they seem to like the nutrient rich soil cuz the rest of the yard is hot and dry and no sign of ants there...Help?
 

Angus

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How about ants? they are storming the main stalk which is about 3 inches in diameter now.. not sure if i was to spray ant stuff it would absorb too much in to the plant..they seem to like the nutrient rich soil cuz the rest of the yard is hot and dry and no sign of ants there...Help?
For the love of god don't spray any RAID on your soil!

I've had ants in my soil and they haven't caused any damage, themselves, however they can 'farm' aphids which can ruin a grow. I'm not sure if neem oil does anything to repel ants but you can look it up and see or try it out. You can get a concentrate at Lowe's or Home Depot for like 8 bucks that makes like 50 gallons of the spray. While you're there pick up a sprayer. You can use it for foliar feeding too, or if you already foliar feed, use the one you have. Also see if they have organic ant repellant/killer that is food crop safe. Look for the OMRI seal.

Are you using organic fertilizer like blood or bone meal or a fish product? That may be what is attracting them, and you might be able to replace it with something else.
 

Seamaiden

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No, but this year we have a dearth of hornets and a true abundance of flies (including biting flies, they're fucking up my dogs' ears, making them all bloody and shit). So, my husband put up a bunch of fly strips, the kind that come in the tiny tubes, right? We're sitting there talking while he's working on one of the motorcycles and I happen to glance at one of the strips and there's this GIANT fucking hornet, I mean a full inch long, EASY, stuck to the fly strip. It's struggling and struggling and we're going on about how it's too bad it won't get away. I forget about it and look back a few minutes later and the fucker's GONE! It raided the fly strip for flies, got stuck, and got away. :shock:
 

harvesttime

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how in the world are the plants older than you?
are you 5
marijuana doesnt just keep growing outdoors and not flower and die off within a matter of 2 years?
 

nsanitati0ns

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I've got this brugmansia in my backyard seems to do a goodjob of attracting the bugs....
It has no flowers now but ussually the thing is covered in atleast 200 flowers or so.


 

smokablunt16

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how in the world are the plants older than you?
are you 5
marijuana doesnt just keep growing outdoors and not flower and die off within a matter of 2 years?

A mother plant can stay in vegetaive state for YEARS as long as it gets 18 hours of light every day. of Course you could run into health problems such as the roots continuing to grow and being more susceptible to insect,spidermite, and disease attacks.

If you kept her in a 20 gallon container and kept her growing strong and healthy, no doubt she'll be fine for years. Of course you may need to pull the root ball and trim the roots once in awhile as well as change some of soil to keep both the soil/root enviroment healthy.

You could also take some of the strongest clones and keep the genetics alive for many many more years.
 

South Texas

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It's SO dry here, the Ants seek the water that drains out of the containers. I have to spray "Permethrin" every few days under the pots. If infested bad, I put a "LIGHT" spray directly on the top soil around the base. Boric acid will keep their ass away, also.
 
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