Presidential Executive Privilege

Obama justdeclared Executive Privilege as it pertains to the Fast and FuriousInvestigation. That can only mean thatHolder and the President had conversations about this issue either before,during or after. In February Holder testifiedin front of Congress that there has never been communication between him andthe President.
He will beheld in Contempt today for sure and most likely wind up in Jail at some point.
What bothersme is that the White House must have known all along and that they have beenlying to us.
ExecutivePrivilege is what Nixon used to try to get out of his scam years ago.
The world isgetting tougher and tougher for Obama but let the cards fall where they will.

ummmm I do believe that Bush used EP a total of 6 times..Hope you said the same thing then.

londonfog said:

ummmm I do believe that Bush used EP a total of 6 times..Hope you said the same thing then.

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I dont like that he did it at the last hour before the contempt charge to cover up a Lie by the Attorney General to Congress. If nothing else, we can not allow public officals to lie to Congress. We might as well just throw the whole system in the trash, stay home and grow our own Groceries.

This is bad for Holder, the Admin and the United States of America

Lol of course not.

Bush isnt a black Kenyan Muslim imperialist

Funny how the opinions of many change when a black dude becomes president.

You dont remember all the protests about spending, deficits and liberty when we had a white president?

The only reason that they would Invoke this is becasue the President had knowledge.

This is crazy a guy was killed, a border agent dead, we should get answers. This was not some top secret CIA mission this was just some guy protecting our borders. Sucks

Obama's claiming exec privelege in no way indicates that he had prior knowlege of Holder's actions. He may well be perserving the powers of the exec branch as a matter of course.

canndo said:

Obama's claiming exec privelege in no way indicates that he had prior knowlege of Holder's actions. He may well be perserving the powers of the exec branch as a matter of course.

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Please explain as I am very intrested. Is he trying to block Congress from finding him in Contempt?? If that is the case than why would the President want to distance his office from the acts of the Attorney Generals office that caused the death of an agent?????

I would think he would want the public to know to show he is behind us and not behind doors?

chrishydro said:

Please explain as I am very intrested. Is he trying to block Congress from finding him in Contempt?? If that is the case than why would the President want to distance his office from the acts of the Attorney Generals office that caused the death of an agent?????

I would think he would want the public to know to show he is behind us and not behind doors?

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Big guy I suggest that you go protest ASAP...Log off, make a sign, and fly to Washington D.C. and start your protest. I'm sure you will have others to follow you.

It is an admission that this scandall reaches all the way into the white house, a quote from a constituntional expert.


Its crap guys.

canndo said:

Obama's claiming exec privelege in no way indicates that he had prior knowlege of Holder's actions. He may well be perserving the powers of the exec branch as a matter of course.

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I'll have to disagree, it's precisely why the president invoked executive privilege.
The AG is on record saying the president had no prior knowledge of guns being deliberately leaked out to Mexican cartels by the DOJ, the president himself is on record claiming the same.

The reasons for invoking executive privilege is to protect sensitive military or diplomatic information, or preserving executive branch communication between presidents, top aides, officials and advisers.

We all can agree it sure as hell isn't a question of national security, so what reason is left?

londonfog said:

ummmm I do believe that Bush used EP a total of 6 times..Hope you said the same thing then.

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I hope you'll have the same anger at Obama for doing it, as you had with Bush.

But somehow I don't suppose you will.

Bush had to invoke executive privilege because the Democrats in Congress were obstructing the execution of a frigging war, for crying out loud. This isn't about war, or national security, or diplomatic secrets, it's about a crummy law enforcement operation at the DOJ.

I'm afraid that "Bush did it, it's Bush's fault" just ain't making it anymore, pal.

What we have is an anti-gun extremist as president, who attempted to create a scandal by sending American guns to Mexican cartels. The idea was that the Mexicans would *kill Americans* with the guns, then Obama could say, "See? We need gun control!". And that's what Holder and Obama don't want being investigated.

It's all thoroughly researched and documented in journalist Katie Pavlich's "Fast and Furious: Barack Obama's Bloodiest Scandal and Its Shameless Cover-Up"

You can buy it here: http://www.amazon.com/Fast-Furious-Bloodiest-Shameless-Cover-Up/dp/1596983213

Truncheon said:

I hope you'll have the same anger at Obama for doing it, as you had with Bush...

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Hello puppet...Don't feel like being yourself today..lol or do you think more accounts will make your point more effective..

This will end any trust that anyone has in this Admin and as it plays out over the years to come will be the only thing the Pres is remembered for. It is a cover up plain and simple, go ask Nixon.

londonfog said:

Big guy I suggest that you go protest ASAP...Log off, make a sign, and fly to Washington D.C. and start your protest. I'm sure you will have others to follow you.

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be sure to have a liberal proofread that sign first though.

chrishydro said:

It is an admission that this scandall reaches all the way into the white house, a quote from a constituntional expert.


Its crap guys.

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*scandal
*constitutional
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londonfog said:

Hello puppet

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An amusing accusation. Weren't able to compose an intelligent response, so figured you'd troll a bit? I gather I'm supposed to get all angry now, and defend myself, just because my first post was towards you? Sorry.

beenthere said:

I'll have to disagree, it's precisely why the president invoked executive privilege.
The AG is on record saying the president had no prior knowledge of guns being deliberately leaked out to Mexican cartels by the DOJ, the president himself is on record claiming the same.

The reasons for invoking executive privilege is to protect sensitive military or diplomatic information, or preserving executive branch communication between presidents, top aides, officials and advisers.

We all can agree it sure as hell isn't a question of national security, so what reason is left?

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The power of the exec vs. the power of Congress, this is an old battle. Recall Cheney's refusal to issue energy policy meeting notes and attendees, this could be along the same lines. Now it could indeed be that Obama is covering his ass but that is not the only explaination. Presidents do have a stake in keeping the exec on top of the heap.

Truncheon said:

An amusing accusation. Weren't able to compose an intelligent response, so figured you'd troll a bit? I gather I'm supposed to get all angry now, and defend myself, just because my first post was towards you? Sorry.

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Their liberals. Their arguments consist of animated gifs, spell checking, and shouting louder.

canndo said:

The power of the exec vs. the power of Congress, this is an old battle. Recall Cheney's refusal to issue energy policy meeting notes and attendees

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This isn't about policy development. It's about an actual law enforcement operation that went awry, and led to deaths. There is no visible basis for pleading executive privilege. Generally, in a botched operation there's an investigation, someone takes the heat and resigns, and it's done. You don't have the President and the Attorney General pleading privilege.

Truncheon said:

IWhat we have is an anti-gun extremist as president, who attempted to create a scandal by sending American guns to Mexican cartels. The idea was that the Mexicans would *kill Americans* with the guns, then Obama could say, "See? We need gun control!". And that's what Holder and Obama don't want being investigated.

It's all thoroughly researched and documented in journalist Katie Pavlich's "Fast and Furious: Barack Obama's Bloodiest Scandal and Its Shameless Cover-Up"

You can buy it here: http://www.amazon.com/Fast-Furious-Bloodiest-Shameless-Cover-Up/dp/1596983213

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Anti-gun extremist who signed a law to allow gun toting in Fed parks? You guys see anti-gun extremists under your beds at night, Christ. And what is Obama's "game" now? to trick everyone into thinking that he is pro-gun only to unleash his end game in the next few months just in case he is not re-elected? Wow.