pots and root bounds!!

Hicham_nofal420

Hicham_nofal420

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How can some people plant trees or big plants in small pots like in the pic? He has a tree in a 5 gallon pot without any root bounds.

I planted before in a 10 gallon (second pic). Although the area is doubled and the plant is small, the plant was root bound.
 

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cody.young11

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Hicham_nofal420 said:
How can some people plant trees or big plants in small pots like in the pic? He has a tree in a 5 gallon pot without any root bounds.

I planted before in a 10 gallon (second pic). Although the area is doubled and the plant is small, the plant was root bound.
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Damn what nutes do you use?
 
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cody.young11

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Hicham_nofal420 said:
How can some people plant trees or big plants in small pots like in the pic? He has a tree in a 5 gallon pot without any root bounds.

I planted before in a 10 gallon (second pic). Although the area is doubled and the plant is small, the plant was root bound.
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Oh that's not your plant on the left? I'm having an issue too. Look at this plant on the front right, its the same age as back right and it stopped growing 20201220_103252.jpg20201220_103343.jpg
 
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trambles

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Not sure but if u use a smart pot/fabric pot u wont get any bound roots. The roots air prune and continue to split off instead of circle the pot. I grow trees in #7 smart pots, they finish st 7 feet with heavy branching and roots are never bound20200115_011343.jpg
 
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cody.young11

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trambles said:
Not sure but if u use a smart pot/fabric pot u wont get any bound roots. The roots air prune and continue to split off instead of circle the pot. I grow trees in #7 smart pots, they finish st 7 feet with heavy branching and roots are never boundView attachment 4774371
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Check this out i actually transplanted just the tiny one that stopped growing like a month ago and check out what was on the bottom of the pot. It grew through the fabric bottom 20201222_123702.jpg
 
xtsho

xtsho

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I never use pots as big as 5 gallons.

8ft tall in a 3 gallon pot of soil.






2.5 gallon pot



A neglected Ethiopian growing in the backyard in a 3 liter pot. But as you can see it grew into the ground so not really just growing in a 3 liter pot.


 
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Dubstin

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I personally think root binding is incredibly exaggerated. I used to single light plants in 5 gal pots. Was getting 1.3+ g/w off SE HPS. Consistently 2+ lbs a plant in those 5 gal buckets.

I think what happens is people forget vegging plants grow exponentially fast so they've got a little plant they think needs to be repotted, they do so and then see fast growth afterwards. Then attributing this to the larger pot when likely it would of grown just as fast for quite awhile longer without repotting.
 
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MICHI-CAN

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Dubstin said:
I personally think root binding is incredibly exaggerated. I used to single light plants in 5 gal pots. Was getting 1.3+ g/w off SE HPS. Consistently 2+ lbs a plant in those 5 gal buckets.

I think what happens is people forget vegging plants grow exponentially fast so they've got a little plant they think needs to be repotted, they do so and then see fast growth afterwards. Then attributing this to the larger pot when likely it would of grown just as fast for quite awhile longer without repotting.
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Just an opinion and now practiced. Fabric pots and their ultra fast drying promote excessive root growth. They seek water. Trees can be grown in plastic pots easily with the proper wet dry cycle and targeted watering in good soil. It is more consistent than fabric. And it's "air pruning" is just promoting unneeded root growth. Learn to grow roots. The plant is just the result of your success there.
 
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MICHI-CAN said:
Just an opinion and now practiced. Fabric pots and their ultra fast drying promote excessive root growth. They seek water. Trees can be grown in plastic pots easily with the proper wet dry cycle and targeted watering in good soil. It is more consistent than fabric. And it's "air pruning" is just promoting unneeded root growth. Learn to grow roots. The plant is just the result of your success there.
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Great points! The only time i use fabric pots these days is for amended organic soil grows and its only because my watering habits can be a little undisciplined at times due to an erratic work schedule. When I run coco (or promix as I'm running at the moment) I have gone back to plastic pots. I just get better results from them.
Hicham_nofal420 said:
How can some people plant trees or big plants in small pots like in the pic? He has a tree in a 5 gallon pot without any root bounds.

I planted before in a 10 gallon (second pic). Although the area is doubled and the plant is small, the plant was root bound.
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A great way to get big plants in a small pot is to use a hydroponic media like coco or a peat based blend. I've seen absolute beasts sticking out of a 2 gallon pot in coco.
 
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MICHI-CAN

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NanoGadget said:
Great points! The only time i use fabric pots these days is for amended organic soil grows and its only because my watering habits can be a little undisciplined at times due to an erratic work schedule. When I run coco (or promix as I'm running at the moment) I have gone back to plastic pots. I just get better results from them.

A great way to get big plants in a small pot is to use a hydroponic media like coco or a peat based blend. I've seen absolute beasts sticking out of a 2 gallon pot in coco.
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I agree. But did you see the 3' of tentacles below the container?

Here is a rootball in ground from an easy 9'6" grown as suggested. Same indoor. Roots only travel as far as needed. Some beasts here for sure. 003.jpg
 
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MICHI-CAN

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PadawanWarrior said:
Plants can't get root bound when you plant them in the ground outside. Totally different scenario.
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Really. Try saying hello first.

Discussing the growth habits of roots. In an attempt to explaining how to avoid.

Go ahead and preach. The floor is yours. Was bored. Peace.
 
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