Potassium Bicarbonate - is it really safe to use in flower!? Material safety data is concerning

jynzy420

jynzy420

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OK guys...

So we all know potassium bicarbonate is safe to use in foods, however my concern is what happens to a product when it's lit on fire. For those of you using in flower all the way up until harvest, you may want to peep this Material Safety Data Sheet specifically under combustion.

Some may not care, some might

Stay safe everyone!!


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Im under the impression Hydrogen peroxide is completely safe, at any stage of growth as it decomposes into water and oxygen.

Can anyone dispute this, with evidenceÉ
 
Dorian2

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Can you verify this assumption with evidence? Might have to start with an explanation of free radicals, levels of concentration, and methods of use though.
 
jynzy420

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Raspootin said:
What's your application or need for it in flower?
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I'm using it to control PM. And getting closer to harvest I am getting more and more concerned about spraying things. Plus, I also like to know what I'm smoking or potentially smoking... Many chemicals change compounds once lit on fire and my stoner curiosity kicked in
 
jynzy420

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hotrodharley said:
You’re way overthinking this.
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Maybe for you I am... But I'd rather use something that doesn't warn to not be inhaled, especially when I'm doing JUST that. I'm sure I'm not the only one who feels this way. When I find information that may be helpful to some but not all I still share, because we all have different preference, patients, ailments etc...
 
jynzy420

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Dorian2 said:
Can you verify this assumption with evidence? Might have to start with an explanation of free radicals, levels of concentration, and methods of use though.
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Assumption? I'm not assuming anything, I'm providing everyone with alarming information I came across on a super stoned research mission. If you need evidence, download the PDF yourself and read it, I included the link below.

Idk about you but I don't personally feel safe spraying something on my buds up until the day of harvest with a warning label like this

But to each their own...

https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&source=web&rct=j&url=https://www.armandproducts.com/pdfs/PotassiumBicarbonateAnhydrousAllGrades.pdf&ved=2ahUKEwjEt6G0zrbzAhVJHs0KHXs6ADkQFnoECAQQBg&usg=AOvVaw0CNc6u1YpEkYn-DinHYHWu

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Rurumo

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It's totally safe, all it is is potassium and bicarbonates, as essential a mineral for us as for plants. The thing about potassium bicarbonate in flower is that it WILL burn your pistils, so some people avoid it for that reason. But it's better to burn your pistils than smoke fungus.
 
jynzy420

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Rurumo said:
It's totally safe, all it is is potassium and bicarbonates, as essential a mineral for us as for plants. The thing about potassium bicarbonate in flower is that it WILL burn your pistils, so some people avoid it for that reason. But it's better to burn your pistils than smoke fungus.
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I was all about it until I went reading last night and came across this...and granted I'm not using it by barrel fulls, but damn I really don't like to read that...

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PJ Diaz

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Rurumo said:
It's totally safe, all it is is potassium and bicarbonates, as essential a mineral for us as for plants. The thing about potassium bicarbonate in flower is that it WILL burn your pistils, so some people avoid it for that reason. But it's better to burn your pistils than smoke fungus.
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But you wouldn't roll up a joint of potassium bicarbonate and smoke it to your head would you? Of course the answer is no, so clearly there is a threshold when it wouldn't be considered safe. The question to me is, what is that threshold exactly? Personally I don't use potassium bicarbonate, for a number of reasons. First of all there are better options, but secondly, it definitely leaves a residue of particulates on the plant which I don't want in my lungs.
 
ooof-da

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jynzy420 said:
OK guys...

So we all know potassium bicarbonate is safe to use in foods, however my concern is what happens to a product when it's lit on fire. For those of you using in flower all the way up until harvest, you may want to peep this Material Safety Data Sheet specifically under combustion.

Some may not care, some might

Stay safe everyone!!


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An SDS is for firefighting and general DOT/transportation safety protocols not what the chemistry does at the end point of intended use. For that you need to apply all the processes the chemistry is subjected too and most importantly at what concentration into account.
 
hotrodharley

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It seems many assume a plant has a circulatory system as well as a digestive system akin to a mammal or even a reptile. It’s not like it just swallowed a lethal dose of something as you yanked it. You’re way way overthinking it. But whatever.
 
Dorian2

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jynzy420 said:
Assumption? I'm not assuming anything, I'm providing everyone with alarming information I came across on a super stoned research mission. If you need evidence, download the PDF yourself and read it, I included the link below.

Idk about you but I don't personally feel safe spraying something on my buds up until the day of harvest with a warning label like this

But to each their own...

https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&source=web&rct=j&url=https://www.armandproducts.com/pdfs/PotassiumBicarbonateAnhydrousAllGrades.pdf&ved=2ahUKEwjEt6G0zrbzAhVJHs0KHXs6ADkQFnoECAQQBg&usg=AOvVaw0CNc6u1YpEkYn-DinHYHWu

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Yeah. I don't spray my plants with anything but Safers neem. That was the data sheet that I actually read. It's not a big deal. By assumption I meant that the pdf looks like a typical data sheet in a number of workplaces. Where I live we typically at the least take the WHMIS (Workplace Hazardous Materials Information System) if you deal with this type of material on a daily basis. I don't expect a heavily diluted spray bottle would pose any type of safety threat. I obviously cannot provide "proof" of this in any way, and I'm not so sure it's reasonable for this discussion to ask for that type of proof.

But I do get your point and I think it's worth vetting out. Sorry if my post came across the wrong way. In the end, your approach is spot on if you're unfamiliar with materials like this.
 
jynzy420

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ooof-da said:
An SDS is for firefighting and general DOT/transportation safety protocols not what the chemistry does at the end point of intended use. For that you need to apply all the processes the chemistry is subjected too and most importantly at what concentration into account.
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I fully agree that more research is needed on the subject. But, since I can't find any safety studies with the specs you described, I was left to look at other resources. I thought starting a conversation might lead me to studies/information I was unable to find.

I guess my next step is to find the half life of potassium bicarbonate to see if it's still something I personally would like in my arsenal. Taking drying and curing into account, it could be completely inert at time of consumption.
 
jynzy420

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hotrodharley said:
It seems many assume a plant has a circulatory system as well as a digestive system akin to a mammal or even a reptile. It’s not like it just swallowed a lethal dose of something as you yanked it. You’re way way overthinking it. But whatever.
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I might be, you're right. Do you have any studies to share that might solidify the statement that it is safe to smoke?
 
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