Pool Shock in Res - Root Rot help

rkymtnman

rkymtnman

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Ladiesonly said:
Any ideas on turn around time? Should I try soaking in h202. Right now just doing the shock
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i've never done flood tables so i'm not sure how to help. the shock should be just as good if not better than peroxide.

are you sure it's not grow room temps or too much light?

where are you seeing the rot? can you take a close up pic of the rot?
 
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newbplantgrower420

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i know people who dont use root rot preventatives in ebb and flow and they get healthy plants. no bennies nor pool shock/h2o2.

only thing they use is their base nutes and tap water. i guess tap water has some chlorine in it to prevent root rot but from what theyve told me... they just top off their water with the tap water and add nutes once a week.

ive used bennies always personally. best one that ive used is Orca. I had insane root growth exploding from the bottom so much it was lifting the hugo an inch or two up in the air off the flood table.

i think u should look into that for your next run if you do think root rot is the issue. the idea of reloading pool shock or h2o2 every 2 days is a turn off for me personally.
 
rkymtnman

rkymtnman

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Ladiesonly said:
here you go
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hmm, that does look not so good. i'm a dwc guy and for plants as big as yours, my root balls are WAY bigger than those.

i have seen people that run flood tables that cover the whole table with hydroton to keep light off the roots. not sure if that would be a solution to your issue?

maybe some others that run that style can chime in. sorry can't help you much more than that. good luck!
 
Ladiesonly

Ladiesonly

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hey I appreciate all the help. I took three plants and made clones and they are in my clone king.

I going to shock these through the weekend. The clean and sterilize everything good start with a fresh res.

I think this is a good experiment. Will see what the clones do. Does it matter or 3 more days in clone king.

On the plants the issue is roots and light I thought about what you said and that's it I'm moving the three big ones to 5gallon smart pots.

The 40 clones I have I will sow on another table thanks dude. I'll post how this turns out I'm good

rkymtnman said:
hmm, that does look not so good. i'm a dwc guy and for plants as big as yours, my root balls are WAY bigger than those.

i have seen people that run flood tables that cover the whole table with hydroton to keep light off the roots. not sure if that would be a solution to your issue?

maybe some others that run that style can chime in. sorry can't help you much more than that. good luck!
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I say try the clones
 
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harrythehat

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Ladiesonly said:
MY system is 50 gallon res and 3x3 tray and 6" net pots. The seeds were started in rockwool and stuck in leca. Its been 4 days I feel like there branching out a little but leaves are still pretty bad. Im hitting them with 2.5 shock every other days.

Next to this tent I have 4x4 tray and no issues its in flower.

I think the 3x3 has issues as things weren't sterile. Im using bonicare nuts
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Would be nice to see a picture.
how are you feeding the plants as in how does your system work?
clay pebbles are a nightmare substrate as they leach for ages. There good for paths in the garden an thats about all
 
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harrythehat

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Reading back on this post found It.
Your root rot problems are because you are using ebb and flow and clay pebbles,
to get rid of it
up your ebb and flow rates 6/10 times an hour the more times the better it does not matter how long you flow for they will not drown
less time on ebb the better.
do that you wont need chlorine your system was too passive.
 
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harrythehat

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Moving forward the plants will revive. but you may find because it has damaged the roots they need to re grwo it may form a stunted plant for a while till it gets going again
 
Star Dog

Star Dog

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I'm glad I looked at this post, I thought calcium hypochlorite lasted indefinitely so to speak, I got some effervescent chlorine tabs from a live stock place but the label says it's NaDCC it doesn't mention calcium hypochlorite.

I thought NaDCC must have been a different thing hence having to be mixed daily, every days a school day :-)
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rkymtnman

rkymtnman

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Star Dog said:
I'm glad I looked at this post, I thought calcium hypochlorite lasted indefinitely so to speak, I got some effervescent chlorine tabs from a live stock place but the label says it's NaDCC it doesn't mention calcium hypochlorite.

I thought NaDCC must have been a different thing hence having to be mixed daily, every days a school day :-)
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is it safe for human consumption?
and is that a picture of a dead fish in the orange diamond?
 
Star Dog

Star Dog

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rkymtnman said:
is it safe for human consumption?
and is that a picture of a dead fish in the orange diamond?
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Idk about human consumption but it is for live stock drinking water and sanitising the supply lines?
Yes its a dead fish on the label.
 
Star Dog

Star Dog

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It's chlorine?
I'm not in the least surprised it's harmful to fish in the wrong concentration, plants actually use chlorine for photosynthesis.
 
Failmore

Failmore

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So you and I grow is basically the same way. Your issue is your roots are growing out of the pots. You do not want that. They struggle to survive on the table in the light and start to die.

You need to contain everything in a pot.

Or you need to water a lot more.

I can keep roots alive outside my pots by having my pump turn on more. But then I start to see issues in my root zone. The hydroton holds enough water to smother the roots if you don't let it sit a while between watering.

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These pots were not big enough. Going bigger next go.
 
Star Dog

Star Dog

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rkymtnman said:
Sodium dichloroisocyanurate

i'd be scared of how much Na it would add. and who the hell knows what that second word contains. lol
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Yes that did cross my mind but being suitable for drinking water made me think it would be OK, however by the time I received it I didn't need it.
The stem of a clone I'd kept in the fridge was turning mushy 3x consecutive, by the time I got that stuff it had rooted lol so I've never used other than for sterilising.
 
Ladiesonly

Ladiesonly

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Failmore said:
So you and I grow is basically the same way. Your issue is your roots are growing out of the pots. You do not want that. They struggle to survive on the table in the light and start to die.

You need to contain everything in a pot.

Or you need to water a lot more.

I can keep roots alive outside my pots by having my pump turn on more. But then I start to see issues in my root zone. The hydroton holds enough water to smother the roots if you don't let it sit a while between watering.

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These pots were not big enough. Going bigger next go.
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Yeah I went smart pots 1st grow then these little guys. I agree its the light etc. I put the net pots in 5 gallon smart pots last night then added leca. I bet these turn around quickly.
 
Failmore

Failmore

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If you let them dry out 1 time they die. I changed my timer to a 4 hour cycle and my outside roots went brown. I had to remove the pots from the tent so i trimmed the outside roots. This one did not get pulled from the tent.

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Ladiesonly

Ladiesonly

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Failmore said:
If you let them dry out 1 time they die. I changed my timer to a 4 hour cycle and my outside roots went brown. I had to remove the pots from the tent so i trimmed the outside roots. This one did not get pulled from the tent.

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You thinking putting them in the 5 gallon smart pots will help? I think they will pull through in 7-10 days
 
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