Poll: When do you start day 1 flower? 12/12 or first pistil?

Hey. This is a subject that has been bugging me for awhile. When do you count the first day of flower? is it when you switch to 12/12 or when you see the first pistil? For example if a strain calls for a 55-60 day flowering period do you start the 55 days from 12/12 or first pistil? I know overall it is just a guideline and you harvest when your girl's trichs tell you to.

Thx,
pce

i think on the switch on. well thats wat i heard u dig.

the day you switch to 12/12 starts my flowering time and im right on target minus/plus half a week (depends on how perfect i keep my room and the type of strain i got at the time) currently flowering 2 unknown strains 1 finishes at 8 weeks and is more indica and the other is more sativa 10-11 weeks but ive got 4 of nirvanas ice growing to get new moms hopefully 4 new moms but hey it wouldnt be fun without the mystery sory sitting here and

I'm pretty sure that period you're talking about is the entire duration. You can veg a lot of strains for several months, or even for several years. As soon as you switch into 12/12 is the start, IMO.

Then again I count my youngins' from the day they're sown, instead of whenever I may notice them break soil, or whatever.

I'm voting first pistul, since the first two or so weeks of 12/12 is aggressive vegitative growth.

I don't consider stretching a sign of growth. What my concern is all about is foliage.

I'm for first pistil, Even if you start an 8 week strain on 12/12 from seed its still going to need 3 plus weeks of vegetative growth before flowering can truly start. Maybe I'm wrong but this works for me. I like to let my plants go a week to 10 days longer anyhow.

YOU SHOULD STOP COOUNTING DAYS AND BUy A MICROSCOPE.
55 days is not a must, you could have white widow plants and have cultivate them for more than 10 weeks.

with a microscope you could see the thricomes turn from crystal to pale grey and then to amber colour
you should cut the plant when there is a mixture of grey and amber thricoms ( if all are gray you'll have a short high, if they all turn to amber youll be stoned) + you should always give the plant 2 days darkness before and after the 12/12 cycle .
the reason for this is because the plant will think its dying and will generate itself to create more pistils, and youll be a happer panda

kill some plants and kill some more, smoke shitty weed but its your shitty weed . its like sex, you cant perform 70 pages of camasutra when youve just lost your verginity ...it takes time effort and errors . thats why hippies never had anything big to do, growing weed is a full time job when done correctly

hope it helped

BudHunter said:

YOU SHOULD STOP COOUNTING DAYS AND BUy A MICROSCOPE.
55 days is not a must, you could have white widow plants and have cultivate them for more than 10 weeks.

with a microscope you could see the thricomes turn from crystal to pale grey and then to amber colour
you should cut the plant when there is a mixture of grey and amber thricoms ( if all are gray you'll have a short high, if they all turn to amber youll be stoned) + you should always give the plant 2 days darkness before and after the 12/12 cycle .
the reason for this is because the plant will think its dying and will generate itself to create more pistils, and youll be a happer panda

kill some plants and kill some more, smoke shitty weed but its your shitty weed . its like sex, you cant perform 70 pages of camasutra when youve just lost your verginity ...it takes time effort and errors . thats why hippies never had anything big to do, growing weed is a full time job when done correctly

hope it helped

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We're not counting days here. Did you read the poll question??

the question is : from which day you start counting the 55 days of flowering?
well the answer is just one thing....time doesnt mean shit. thricomes mean shit
plus youll notice the plant when it reaches maturity

Oh I understand that, you have to wait untill the plant looks ready and trichomes look ready. But I still use the eight weeks or whatever as a general guideline. I'd never chop a plant at bang on 8 weeks. Its all preference really.

This is another atom splitter around here.

I start counting once my plant shows sex. That lets me know that she has finished veg and transformed into the flowering stage. Once I see pistils, I start my flower period count. The flowering period listed by the strain breeders is only used for generality time frames. As I get closer to that timeframe, I start looking to see how close she is to finishing and what I need to do to help her along.

I will tell you that since I've changed my way of counting to this way, I am much closer to the timelines posted by the breeder. Not exact....but closer.

I have had strains that have taken quite a bit longer.

Either way, were all within a week or two of each other. Do what makes you feel confident and go with it Scopes are definately a help.

~Boneman

if i go 12/12 from day one of sprouting am i truly in flower? the plants will show when flowering starts

robert 14617 said:

if i go 12/12 from day one of sprouting am i truly in flower? the plants will show when flowering starts

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GREAT POINT robert

its your point condensed boneman

wow robert, you make a good point! good job bud

Well, the 12 hours of darkness forces production of sex hormones(the start)....

The main factor of when to harvest is to analyze the trichs(the end).

TeaTreeOil said:

Well, the 12 hours of darkness forces production of sex hormones(the start)....

The main factor of when to harvest is to analyze the trichs(the end).

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Thx all for your opinions and input. I did state in original message that YES the true deciding factor in when to harvest is determined with trich maturation. This is just a curiousity of mine of when YOU COUNT day 1 of flower. It is very helpful if you are on a deadline (moving out or something) need it by a certain time...ext.

pce

interesting that so many said first pistils. I definitely think it should be when u flip the lights.. except when growing outdoor it can sometimes be hard to tell when that change happens..its much easier to see pistils that and almost non-existent stretch in a dominant indica.

The issue of when the flowering stage officially starts is a matter of much debate. Both sides have interesting points, but to me it is quite simple. The flowering stage begins when the plant tells you it is flowering.

In other words, I start my flowering day count from the day I see female parts.

Initiating the 12/12 cycle begins the process of urging the plant into the flower stage, but for my purposes the reference point is when the plant actually flowers.

Look to nature. Outdoor plants do not flower when natural light cycles hit 12/12, they flower when the steadily decreasing light cycles, and other outdoor variables, meet each individual plants flowering requirement. Literal 12/12 in nature roughly corresponds with harvest. In fact, throughout vast stretches of North America, by the time 12/12 actually arrives in nature, harvest time has come and gone.

We use 12/12 indoors as a way to urge the plants into flower as means of speeding up production. 18/6 & 12/12 is easy to remember, but totally artificial.

Good luck and good growing.