PM on newly rooted clones

nxsov180db

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Environment is stuck, my basement sucks, this is the first time I had PM in 8 years.... Gonna start spraying my cuttings with either Procrop 1, Regalia, or zerotol? Not sure whats the best for new cuttings.
Use the pure crop at 60ml/gal, dunk the whole clone if you can. Use the regalia once a week from now until week 3 maybe week 4.
 

Meast21

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For PM

PURECROP 1: 60ml/gal if visible issues. 30ml is what you do as a preventative *** OR 8ML/4ML for 500ML ***

Regalia: 60ml/gal if visible issues. 30ml is what you do as a preventative *** OR 8ML/4ML for 500ML ***

Zerotel: 2.5ML/500 ML for 5-7 prevention according to label (This is the orginal zerotel)
 

Meast21

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I've tried clones every which way possible and sometimes or at least 1/3 of my clones turn brown like this. I've tried clones in rockwool under a doom and in a dwc setup where the water is 1 inch under the bottom of the stem. Some strains don't get this and others do.
 

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HydroKid239

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I'm thinking it's the heat mat toasting them. Maybe there was an instance where the water may have dried up before you replenished it? Or maybe its just getting too hot? the curling in of the fan leaf is making me think it's caused by heat.
Just taking a guess. I've cloned a very similar way.. it looks like they are in a cloner? I had mine in a small tray with dome, and sat the tray on top of a plant saucer to give it space, and to not warm the water up too much.


Edit: I know the temp isn't high on the hygrometer, but I assumed it's lower due to the tent being open.
 

Meast21

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I'm thinking it's the heat mat toasting them. Maybe there was an instance where the water may have dried up before you replenished it? Or maybe its just getting too hot? the curling in of the fan leaf is making me think it's caused by heat.
Just taking a guess. I've cloned a very similar way.. it looks like they are in a cloner? I had mine in a small tray with dome, and sat the tray on top of a plant saucer to give it space, and to not warm the water up too much.


Edit: I know the temp isn't high on the hygrometer, but I assumed it's lower due to the tent being open.
The heat mat is off. The temps in the dome are 72-77 degrees and the humidity is mid 70's usually... I did clones in a dwc setup mister without a dome and they do the same thing depending on the strain when the temp is lower. I can't win with this shit, about to be done growing after 8 years of shit running smooth and perfect at times... I got PM too and have that under control.. Always had issues with cloning.
 

Meast21

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I'm thinking it's the heat mat toasting them. Maybe there was an instance where the water may have dried up before you replenished it? Or maybe its just getting too hot? the curling in of the fan leaf is making me think it's caused by heat.
Just taking a guess. I've cloned a very similar way.. it looks like they are in a cloner? I had mine in a small tray with dome, and sat the tray on top of a plant saucer to give it space, and to not warm the water up too much.


Edit: I know the temp isn't high on the hygrometer, but I assumed it's lower due to the tent being open.
They always turn that way around day 6 of taking the cuttings. I have about 8 cuttings now on day 3 of taking them and they look perfect... But they will turn crappy in a few days most likely. I don't get it... Any idea how many drops of bleach I should put in my 1 gallon dwc cloner that shoots water up to the bottom stems? The bleach is clorox.
 

StareCase

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... The temps in the dome are 72-77 degrees and the humidity is mid 70's usually...
Both your temps and humidity could stand to be even higher.

For your temps, somewhere in the low to mid 80's is a better range. I suggest using the heat mat but rather than having the mat on 24/7, set it on a timer. For example 2 hours on and 1 hour off. Keeps the temps from getting too warm which can happen with the mat on 24/7

For humidity, shoot for mid to high 80's.
 

HydroKid239

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Any idea how many drops of bleach I should put in my 1 gallon dwc cloner that shoots water up to the bottom stems? The bleach is clorox.
I’m unsure about how much to use. However I did find an interesting post fiver a decade old on icmag about someone who had issues with cloning, and it looks like it came down to the water they used.
 

Hollatchaboy

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They always turn that way around day 6 of taking the cuttings. I have about 8 cuttings now on day 3 of taking them and they look perfect... But they will turn crappy in a few days most likely. I don't get it... Any idea how many drops of bleach I should put in my 1 gallon dwc cloner that shoots water up to the bottom stems? The bleach is clorox.
You claim splashless bleach in another thread. It's no Bueno.
 

sandman83

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I suspect that light may be the culprit.
Ambient/indirect light is best (IMO), too much light and the cutting will try to photosynthesize rather than throw out roots
I suspect this might be my issue, I have a compact 2 bulb panel over them but still no roots after a week. Still firm and no slime/smell....will change the water and reduce the light.
 
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