plz help do i need bigger pot due to this pic OR WHAT !!!!

nick17gar

nick17gar

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yea i agree with Nitrogen deficiency. and no, your pots are ok right now, soon (week or 2) youll have to transplant, in the mean time, get them healthy again. use something more N heavy, like 8-3-3.

your current fert 10-10-10 will be good to use AFTER the transplant, for a week. (id transplant, use pure water til the new soil is all wet, then use that stuff at 1/2 strength, 3 times over 7 days, with 2 days in between to let the soil dry a bit).
then back to a N heavy fert til veggie time. you can use the 10-10-10 too, like 1/4th strength once every couple of weeks, but its not great for right now. i continue to use a lil just for any random trace elements it may have. use it all the way til almost harvest time, good to keep a lil of everything at all times, but right now nitrogen.

i dunno, i like mixing nutes. one might have calcium, another might not but it will have molybdenum or manganese or something. Just go weak with everything right now, except nitrogen
 
SmokeyDaBear84

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C.Indica said:
I don't know if it's been stated, but that plant has been ready for a transplant since the first picture in the thread.
Give it a 2g pot if you can, it should fit in there for quite some time.

Enjoy!:leaf:
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That's why you go beyond 2 gal., since he wants 3 foot plants then go straight for a 3 gallon pot. 1 foot per gallon of medium.
 
nick17gar

nick17gar

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yea ive heard when the leaf tips reach the edges of the bucket/pot, then the roots probably do too, but i like to extend it a lil longer, and make a dense mesh, then transplant. to each their own i suppose
 
joeweedo

joeweedo

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nick17gar said:
yea ive heard when the leaf tips reach the edges of the bucket/pot, then the roots probably do too, but i like to extend it a lil longer, and make a dense mesh, then transplant. to each their own i suppose
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;) :leaf: ill transplant and get back to u guys , hope transplant and nut would help
 
C.Indica

C.Indica

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You can use general estimates like that, but every plant grows different. I had a plant only get to 40" in a 5g pot.
And I've had a plant get 30" in a 1g pot.

It depends on the plant really.
But since roots are at the edges of the container, It would be good to transplant it real soon.

Nitrogen affects all the developed fan leaves, as apposed to lower leaves one by one, I think it's a micro nutrient.
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Hope this helps:leaf:
 
joeweedo

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C.Indica said:
You can use general estimates like that, but every plant grows different. I had a plant only get to 40" in a 5g pot.
And I've had a plant get 30" in a 1g pot.

It depends on the plant really.
But since roots are at the edges of the container, It would be good to transplant it real soon.

Nitrogen affects all the developed fan leaves, as apposed to lower leaves one by one, I think it's a micro nutrient.
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Hope this helps:leaf:
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thanks alot man , very greatful
 
C.Indica

C.Indica

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What he meant was, if you don't feed your plant a well rounded supply of nutrients, you could have micro nutrient problems in extreme late flowering when it doesn't matter anymore.
And preflowering isn't a period of time..
I think he meant during flowering.
 
asaph

asaph

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ahalan wasahalan ya habibi
it's nice to know there is growing in your kingdom, may allah benefit you and your people from this blessing.
I bet it is hard to get the stuff you need there.
are you sure you can't get anything to measure pH? maybe those test strips - they have many uses, should be sold somewhere! (try the pet store that has aquariums)
It is indeed likely that your problem is being too basic (pH too high) - if your water is hard (lime/scale buildup on your pots and pipes), then this is likely the case. in such a case like been said here you need some acid for pH down, and if you can't get that, some lemon juice or vinegar should help.

also good to flush your soil - run a lot of water (3 times the volume of the pot) through it. This may also help to counter this. What kind of nutrients are you using? what dosage do you use them?

Very important to know: If the roots reach the bottom and the plant is still quite small especially if showing deficiencies, than it is more likely that the roots are spreading to accommodate for some trouble (over/under water, over/under feeding, etc), and not that the plant is root bound. I don't think your plant is root bound, but you can easily check it by lifting the plant with the soil together from the pot. If you see many roots wrapped around the ball of soil then it is root bound. If not, then not. Better to know. IF it is not root bound and you start flowering now, you can leave it in this pot. IF it is not root bound and you want to continue growing it some more before you begin flowering (keep in mind the early flower stretch), then you will need to transplant soon to a bigger pot.

Whatever you choose, a precondition is that you fix your current problem before flowering, because even if transplanting will help for a short time, I believe you will get the problems back and even worse once you begin flowering. And when flowering, you don't want any trouble with the roots, this would reduce your yield substantially and delay the harvest.

Another option if your grow is not big and you have a little cash is to get bottles of radiator water (for the car). This should be like RO water (purified of all salts), and may also help you very much with your grow. It's a bit expensive but probably worth it.
 
Izoc666

Izoc666

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have anyone of you notice that pot at the pictures on first page ? its highly possible this pot (made in china) have a bad chemical of plastic that cause plant to have many defs ? who knows ? i may wrong...I ve always picky when its come to container :) just my theory...than that i suggest to repot to a better pot and hopefully the plant will thriving in Jordan. Happy growing peace.

666
 
joeweedo

joeweedo

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C.Indica said:
What he meant was, if you don't feed your plant a well rounded supply of nutrients, you could have micro nutrient problems in extreme late flowering when it doesn't matter anymore.
And preflowering isn't a period of time..
I think he meant during flowering.
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thanks alot for the clarification :)
 
joeweedo

joeweedo

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asaph said:
ahalan wasahalan ya habibi
it's nice to know there is growing in your kingdom, may allah benefit you and your people from this blessing.
I bet it is hard to get the stuff you need there.
are you sure you can't get anything to measure pH? maybe those test strips - they have many uses, should be sold somewhere! (try the pet store that has aquariums)
It is indeed likely that your problem is being too basic (pH too high) - if your water is hard (lime/scale buildup on your pots and pipes), then this is likely the case. in such a case like been said here you need some acid for pH down, and if you can't get that, some lemon juice or vinegar should help.

also good to flush your soil - run a lot of water (3 times the volume of the pot) through it. This may also help to counter this. What kind of nutrients are you using? what dosage do you use them?

Very important to know: If the roots reach the bottom and the plant is still quite small especially if showing deficiencies, than it is more likely that the roots are spreading to accommodate for some trouble (over/under water, over/under feeding, etc), and not that the plant is root bound. I don't think your plant is root bound, but you can easily check it by lifting the plant with the soil together from the pot. If you see many roots wrapped around the ball of soil then it is root bound. If not, then not. Better to know. IF it is not root bound and you start flowering now, you can leave it in this pot. IF it is not root bound and you want to continue growing it some more before you begin flowering (keep in mind the early flower stretch), then you will need to transplant soon to a bigger pot.

Whatever you choose, a precondition is that you fix your current problem before flowering, because even if transplanting will help for a short time, I believe you will get the problems back and even worse once you begin flowering. And when flowering, you don't want any trouble with the roots, this would reduce your yield substantially and delay the harvest.

Another option if your grow is not big and you have a little cash is to get bottles of radiator water (for the car). This should be like RO water (purified of all salts), and may also help you very much with your grow. It's a bit expensive but probably worth it.
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hala ya man , meet ahla w sahla feek habibi :)

its nice to see some one speaks my languege here :) didn't expect that ,, where r u from Bro ?

actually i found where they sell ph testers and i'm going to get it very soon , i red many many useful and good posts in here so i know how to increase or dicrese the ph level, i just wanna know whats the ph level for god sake :) lol , inorder to solve it , first of all i'm gona get a bigger pot and better soil mix , cause all threads said that peatmoss kills the ph , im using 10-10-10 nut but jordanian made , so i heared about some stores have fox farms nuts in jordan .. its much better so ill get it,and i started with 1/4 nut strn .. then 1/2 then full , and started to flush , now yellowing is much slower than before , i dont think i have rootbound , cause my plants are tall and bigg as for 27 days old ... and im using Mineral water ,,, is radiators water better than Mineral water ??? radiator water is cheap here and very easy to find ...

and i rly dont wanna loose my plants cause they look awesome ,.. and thanks alot alot for ur reply man , im getting usefull info and experience from every reply , its wonderful when i find great ppl like u guys , helping out :) , let me first get the ph tester and get back to u bro maybe today or 2moro ,,


thanks again , :)
 
asaph

asaph

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joeweedo said:
hala ya man , meet ahla w sahla feek habibi :)

its nice to see some one speaks my languege here :) didn't expect that ,, where r u from Bro ?

actually i found where they sell ph testers and i'm going to get it very soon , i red many many useful and good posts in here so i know how to increase or dicrese the ph level, i just wanna know whats the ph level for god sake :) lol , inorder to solve it , first of all i'm gona get a bigger pot and better soil mix , cause all threads said that peatmoss kills the ph , im using 10-10-10 nut but jordanian made , so i heared about some stores have fox farms nuts in jordan .. its much better so ill get it,and i started with 1/4 nut strn .. then 1/2 then full , and started to flush , now yellowing is much slower than before , i dont think i have rootbound , cause my plants are tall and bigg as for 27 days old ... and im using Mineral water ,,, is radiators water better than Mineral water ??? radiator water is cheap here and very easy to find ...

and i rly dont wanna loose my plants cause they look awesome ,.. and thanks alot alot for ur reply man , im getting usefull info and experience from every reply , its wonderful when i find great ppl like u guys , helping out :) , let me first get the ph tester and get back to u bro maybe today or 2moro ,,


thanks again , :)
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So yeah, the soil mix is very important. Fox Farm would be great, if you can get a medium that's coconut coir (جوزة الهند), this would be best. Radiator water should be distilled (مقطر?), stripped of all salts, otherwise it is not what you want. but if so, it will be very helpful, also with nutrients and also with pH.

Your plants do look very good.

A salam aleikum
your brother from israel
 
joeweedo

joeweedo

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asaph said:
So yeah, the soil mix is very important. Fox Farm would be great, if you can get a medium that's coconut coir (جوزة الهند), this would be best. Radiator water should be distilled (مقطر?), stripped of all salts, otherwise it is not what you want. but if so, it will be very helpful, also with nutrients and also with pH.

Your plants do look very good.

A salam aleikum
your brother from israel
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these are very good info man , thanks alot , ill get the Distilled water i've heared from many ppl how good ist for the soil ,

thanks alot ill be intouch with u , :) and i wish we will ask each other later how to harvest :D ..

wish u the best grow . salam 3alaykom , T.C Bro
 
C.Indica

C.Indica

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Don't flower it in that container..
Don't let a flowering plant get rootbound.

I usually flower in a good size container, about 1g-3g, before they're rootbound, and transplant at about week 4 flowering. I use a 5g bucket to flower, it's obviously a little overboard, but I'm done growing large plants for a while, and the next time I use that 5g bucket, it won't be overboard anymore.

+I recycle all my old dirt that I don't want to re-run cannabis in, and mix it into my garden soil.
I grow some fat veggies, and this was my first season gardening.

Can't wait until spring now, with all the personal experience I just learned.
 
asaph

asaph

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C.Indica said:
Don't flower it in that container..
Don't let a flowering plant get rootbound.

I usually flower in a good size container, about 1g-3g, before they're rootbound, and transplant at about week 4 flowering. I use a 5g bucket to flower, it's obviously a little overboard, but I'm done growing large plants for a while, and the next time I use that 5g bucket, it won't be overboard anymore.

+I recycle all my old dirt that I don't want to re-run cannabis in, and mix it into my garden soil.
I grow some fat veggies, and this was my first season gardening.

Can't wait until spring now, with all the personal experience I just learned.
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from what i've seen, at 4 weeks in, roots hardly grow anymore... so it doesn't seem useful to transplant at this stage, better before. Also i hear that smart pots / air pots are very good to eliminate root boundness.
 
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madmad

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I`ve had just a similar problem with my plants - turned out soil pH was way off. I`m waiting for a pH down to be delivered, but in the meantime since they had trouble taking up nutriens with their roots i tried foliar feeding and it was a saviour, my plants look way better now.
 
joeweedo

joeweedo

Member
madmad said:
I`ve had just a similar problem with my plants - turned out soil pH was way off. I`m waiting for a pH down to be delivered, but in the meantime since they had trouble taking up nutriens with their roots i tried foliar feeding and it was a saviour, my plants look way better now.
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ya thats a v good idea im tryin it now

thnx madmad
 
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