Plush Berry Picture Thread

[shagratt]

I think good seeds are pricey because of the rare elite genetics that go into making the seeds and the time and money involved in breeding. Buying seed from a reputable company typically guarantees good quality genetics and usually means some research was done and the best phenotypes were selected to breed with. I'm pretty sure all the GOOD BREEDERS out there spend months if not years developing the super dank we all love so much. There's always the risk of getting busted that should be figured in as well. All my TGA gear has produced great for me, making those $10 seeds more than worth it. There's plenty of overpriced crap around for sure, but there's some good stuff as well. Now here's some overpriced seeds: http://www.cannabis-seeds-bank.co.uk/index.php?act=viewProd&productId=1068 $34 a seed!

Rofl I remember looking at those seeds and wondering how that even exists... Makes subcool look like a hero.How do people even consider charging so much? It makes me want to just pollinate a plant, seperate it into a bunch of seed packs and put it online for 200 dollars a pack. Take a macro shot and start taking pics of healthy plants. Then rip people off just like the rest.

Like I said before, I dont know everything about the breeders. I cant really say they are intentionally ripping anyone off. But I can say some of them are some of the time. I dont think subcool is a jipper, I can tell he takes some kind of pride because I can tell they are at least plushberry plants(they have all the characteristics). And the beans were really big and healthy they all germinated.(ive had greenhouse, barnys all the bigdog seedcompanies sell me white baby seeds that dont even germinate).

Considering all the people who claim to have grown this strain perfectly fine, my conclusion is this strain is a WEAK strain. Meaning you better not give it any food, cant let it get above 80 degrees or do anything. I can not stress how little the amount of stress my plants have gone through. Its possible I did something, but I really dont know what it was. I have recieved no logical explanation why. Maybe the genetics do have hermi, they just dont show up for a few generations or something? I dont know, all i know is my TGA subcool Plush berry are all hermis. I dont have any light leaks. And my temps should be fine. Its possible they dont like extra nitrogen in the soil.
I dont know, you tell me.
There has to be something that causes this strain to tweak out.

 

[Rrog]

price = supply + demand. When the day comes that you can buy seeds at the 7-11 you can buy them cheap.

 

[shagratt]

burr, I just want to inform you that yes there are seed companies selling strains with higher numbers of hermis/shit plants. Just do a test for yourself. Try riserva privadas og kush. That is the single worst strain I have ever grown! I didnt give it anything but plain water and it still tweaked out lol!
As far as mildewy seeds goes that doesnt really exist.. But where im from the dispensaries all sell mildewy clones. The ones ive purchased grew mildew like the mildew was part of the plant! Because it was. The mildew grows from inside the plant out and the only way to stop it is with chemicals. The clones i recieved were so infested that the mildew grew nomadder what I did. If I sprayed a HEAVY dose of greencure it would come back in like 3 days!!!! You serious??? This is in 50% humidity. How can they even do that?
Out of all the feminized seeds in the market. The only strains I trust in the least are barneys Blue cheese, violator kush, greenhouse super silver haze and jack herer. These are the only strains I have ever grown out that were "feminized" seeds. All other "fem seeds" were either hermis or just completely far off the description. Sometimes I think attitude seedbank must be taking good seeds and replacing with bad ones lol... The reason I think this is because, more often when I get a good plant it was packaged inside a breeders seedpack. Then the ones that come in plastic bags always turn out shitty :/.....

 

[Rrog]

Call me paranoid, but on the one hand you're having difficulty with a known east-to-grow strain, yet on the other hand you have grown many, many different strains. And you are specifically calling out Subcool.

Something is not adding up to me, at least.

 

[burrr]

I picked up a clone of what was likely to plushberry from my local dispensary, I over fed and got small hermied buds. I've overfed every indica I've tried to grow, but that was before I learned about feeding lighter.

 

[Rrog]

This is why I'm so fond of Supersoil. I've only added water this whole time.

I might get wild and add some molasses...

 

[Crash666]

I'm with you Rrog. Water and a little bud candy and molasses. I get the occasional pig that needs a light feeding at day 40 or so but not usually.

 

[burrr]

Here is a pic of the scraggly buds I got off of what I'm pretty sure is plushberry, my dispensary renamed it "first place"
I was feedin around 1000ppm of GH 3 part. I'm doing much better with Vortex at 420 ppm
I even thought I had TMV virus while over feeding this one. I tossed out the mother plant thinking It was a weak, hermie prone strain.
Not all of the strains I grew had problems with high feeds, but some sure did.

And here she is, right before harvest.

 

[T Ray]

Shagratt

Here's a quote from Subcool himself

http://www.marijuanapassion.com/forum/showthread.php?t=51089&page=2

The dominate state of all Cannabis is hermaphroditic its just a fact of our favorite plant it says so in the books and so does my 35 years of growing from seed.

And here's a pretty detailed thread about how he breeds and it's explained very thoroughly. The man knows his shit.

https://www.rollitup.org/subcools-old-school-organics/421966-transparency-males.html#post5538087

Go ahead and read those threads. I think he's pretty open and out there when it comes to how he breeds and how their are hermie possibilities in all strains of cannabis.

I think if your story is legit and you didn't get so sour and start personally calling out Sub (telling him the strain is "WEAK"), maybe he would make it right.

Sometimes that's just how shit happens. It ain't like Sub wanted you to get all hermies.

And like Rrog and crash, I can personally attest to the SS + Water with BC and Sucanat at the end method.

 

[pacfanx]

ok now lets change the subject back to plushberry pictures. does anyone have pictures to post so shagratt will go away.. I just started mine 36 hrs ago so i dont really have any pics yet.

 

[shagratt]

Shagratt

Here's a quote from Subcool himself

http://www.marijuanapassion.com/forum/showthread.php?t=51089&page=2

And here's a pretty detailed thread about how he breeds and it's explained very thoroughly. The man knows his shit.

https://www.rollitup.org/subcools-old-school-organics/421966-transparency-males.html#post5538087

Go ahead and read those threads. I think he's pretty open and out there when it comes to how he breeds and how their are hermie possibilities in all strains of cannabis.

I think if your story is legit and you didn't get so sour and start personally calling out Sub (telling him the strain is "WEAK"), maybe he would make it right.

Sometimes that's just how shit happens. It ain't like Sub wanted you to get all hermies.

And like Rrog and crash, I can personally attest to the SS + Water with BC and Sucanat at the end method.

yea i kinda took some previous anger out on subcools thread. Sry bout that. I think this strain is just a super light feeder? Either that or I think my FFOF had more nutrients in it than it was supposed to >_<. Because I really havent fed them much. I havent even gave them any N since they were in 1 gallon pots. And after the transplant is when the new growth started coming in lime green. Normally this soil would require a pretty hefty feeding by now, this time ive given them almost nothing and they still dont want any food.

Basically just put yourself in my shoes. This is my 4th grow where something went wrong in a row since moving to cali.Every time its something different, even though I pretty much do the same thing every time. First time I had one single male flower that was in a really hard to see spot herm at about 5 weeks in flowering so I had to chop before the seeds got big(one ball T_T... Female seeds are seedtraps). Second time I got like 3 females from 12 female seeds. The third time I bought 100$ worth of clones, they got mildewy after 2 days really bad so I went to another club that was 3 hours away. THE SAME SHIT AGAIN. So I just grew them out, but had to spray them with GC every week at least. That grow was pretty pitiful. Off 6 plants I got like 4 zips of harsh smoke(couldnt grow them efficiently because mold would grow). Fourth time I get all herms. This whole time I just want a single mother plant, and at one point I had 2 cuts each from 3 really really good fems. But my cat randomly decided to fucking eat them and throw their remains over the floor.
Basically, ive given like 600$ to other people for seeds/clones that didnt meet their description. And about 100$ to peoples whos did. And ive also had to buy lots of extra crap because of this, and spend mons on gas driving arround.Everything is just too expensive... Including seeds. Im just trying to grow some decent pot lol... And its not even hard.

Ive grown pot in a 100 degree closet like I said before, no hermis nothing wrong. I even used bad tap water, no ph meter no cool tubes and had cheap shitty equipment still got buds. Now, I actually have all the shit I need but magically my plants start herming out and growing mildew wtf.... lol

Ill leave you guys alone untill I start growing again. Im not spending any more money on other peoples shit lols. I cant afford another loss
I still have 3 clones from one of my plants that may or may not have hermed. I cant really tell yet. I hope it comes out female, if it does ill be set if not I just wasnt meant to be growing pot during the next portion of my life.

 

[Springtucky]

Rofl I remember looking at those seeds and wondering how that even exists... Makes subcool look like a hero.How do people even consider charging so much? It makes me want to just pollinate a plant, seperate it into a bunch of seed packs and put it online for 200 dollars a pack. Take a macro shot and start taking pics of healthy plants. Then rip people off just like the rest."

you have to grow good plants first buddy...check all angles try to improve on everything. Theres a lot of risk involved in this business...I've been incarcerated for over a decade just four years ago I came home...how do you put a price on freedom? Good genetics for 60 bucks is a deal.

 

[shagratt]

well, growing good pot isnt that hard honestly. If you live somewhere that power isnt 500 dollars a month with just 1 600w light its the easiest thing on the planet.. Like growing gold bars lol. Some people can grow plants for next to nothing. It cost me like 700 dollars per run, and I only have a small space. So one little thing going wrong puts me back way to much. Especially when you can get zips of A grade weed here for 150-200.
Like ive said before, ive grown huge healthy plants before. Ive had tops that weigh 26-30 grams.When my plants finish correctly, they would be yeilding about 1gpw if the whole room was filled with that same plant. But i always have wasted space.Basically I havent really done anything wrong on any of my latest grows besides let my cat eat the clones. If there is an overfert problem, its an inconsistancy with the FFOF soil. I pretty much just use fox farms soil with humbold nutes and give my plants a few doses of nutes at 1/4 strength or less. Everything is just too expensive. If I try cheaper soil I just get nats. Theres no way to grow cheaply.If power wasnt so costly it would be easier. I hate how people think they are some kind of genius for growing pot. Growing pot = waiting to see what happens lol.. Some people just see a pot plant and OMFG thats so amazing!!! lol stop dickriding
Ive grown viloator kush in a closet with a just a box fan, 1 tub of black gold soil. 20$ worth of nutes. A sheet to block the light. And no cool tube, I trained and stressed the shit out of them with wire like a scrog. Got 14 zips from a 3x3.5 closet.. I used tap water. And ghetto rigged everything in a crampd apartment. My room often got 100 degrees. No hermies! I had hella light leaks and they were fem seeds
It comes to a point where money > skill. With my setup I should be able to produce a large amount of bud with a good stable strain. But I cant trust anyone/get enough information about a strain before I grow it. And I have to buy expensive soil because I have nowhere to make my own mix. People would get suspicious if I had compost in my backyard here.

I bet subcool has a big fat bankroll. And makes a good profit doing what he does. And same with most other breeders. Why nowhere on the plushberry information it says it will herm out if you give it a little extra N? if thats even what happened.....im not saying he doesnt know what hes doing, im saying that hes misleading and just another dude who puts seeds in dirt. and its not that hard to grow good bud. Esp with a huge backyard, a bunch of spare rooms and lights.Nothing wrong with that, but thats the way it is lols. Yall are dickriding way to hard thats all. I apreciate any breeder who doesnt use fem seeds. But I think prices are unfair for seeds. They cost more than weed. Growers of these seeds have to be making fat bank. Hand over fist.
Just because you can have a positive outlook and say "60$ for good genetics" doesnt mean its a fair price IMO. I could produce sooooo many seeds in a small space. I just wouldnt sell hype them up and sell them.In reality you paid 60$ for 5 or 10 seeds. Lols....

 

[shagratt]

Nobody answered my question earlier. I heard that a genetic hermi will produce balls all over the place. And stressed hermis produce single banana pods...

 

[Springtucky]

when do you begin to fertilize your plants?
I also want to seriously know how if electricity is so sky high how come the chronic is so fuckin cheap????

 

[shagratt]

when do you begin to fertilize your plants?
I also want to seriously know how if electricity is so sky high how come the chronic is so fuckin cheap????

Dont ask me lol. I think its cause my dealer knows lots of northcal growers. And i live close to santa cruz they have leniant mmj laws. The MMJ in my town is more strict. And there is no dispensary. You have to call and they deliver it lol. I drive the 45mins for better prices because the delivery guys charge 300zip 50 1/8 more than street prices for equal quality.

I think I found the problem guys. I flushed one of my plants, and the runoff had a RIDICULOUS amount of brown shit. Like way way more than I could have possibly put in the soil. I think there was to much guano in this soil.... There was large amounts of brown shit collecting, looked like really muddy dirt? Ive never ever flushed a plant before and had this much brown stuff come out... Is this just extra dirt? The water was really darkish color, and the brown stuff mixed really well with the water. Meaning it wasnt that grainy like a dirt. It was more muddy :/
It would make sense that the ocean forest was just to hot of soil. I transplanted them, at the time I transplanted they were really healthy. Then the new growth started coming in lime green after than. I gave them some epsom salts because it looked like sulfer deficiency. It didnt effect them positivlely or negatively. Then I gave a small dose of bloom/molasses to half and that didnt effect them negatively or positively either. Today I noticed some actual burning of the leaves. A really small amount. Thats why I flushed. Im never using fox farms again. Im just gonna mix my own soil next time :/

Side note: I got a notice that today that my landlord is going to have people inspect all the units.. I basically have to take all my shit down anyways so it would have been lost either way lol... The fact that they hermi makes no difference.
Also, I think the 2 non plush berry (i think they are space bomb and agent O) are both most likely female. I have 3 clones that are most likely female . Im gonna let them go 2 or 3 more days to make sure, then chop them. And start over this next time ill have 50 plants in the flowering room.

 

[Rrog]

You are flushing soil?

 

[Beansly]

Idk how long you've been talking about this but the picture you showed with the bud with 'balls all over it'; those looked like seed pods not hermie bananas or even males pollen sacs. Is it possible that you had a male and caught it late? Maybe one plant grow a few small bananas and released the pollen that seems to have pollinated at least on of your plants.

 

[boneheadbob]

Nobody answered my question earlier. .

People have tuned you out, its probaly the same in real life.

You come in here ragging on subs gear instead of emailing him and talking to him in a civil manner. Its called airing dirty laundry

Bottom line, your "sub problem" may or may not be a problem in the seeds themselves, however you know have dozens of people saying Plushberry gave them no problems. That should tell you something.

You have already blown it. You act like a spoiled brat in here and show your immaturity even though it appears you are educated in fed gov schools.
Do your self a favor. Let this be a life lesson. You win more bees with honey and almost everytime you approach one of those "rich" business owners, treat them with respect and they will usually go overboard to please you.

 

[shagratt]

People have tuned you out, its probaly the same in real life.

You come in here ragging on subs gear instead of emailing him and talking to him in a civil manner. Its called airing dirty laundry

Bottom line, your "sub problem" may or may not be a problem in the seeds themselves, however you know have dozens of people saying Plushberry gave them no problems. That should tell you something.

You have already blown it. You act like a spoiled brat in here and show your immaturity even though it appears you are educated in fed gov schools.
Do your self a favor. Let this be a life lesson. You win more bees with honey and almost everytime you approach one of those "rich" business owners, treat them with respect and they will usually go overboard to please you.

Well if you look back. I ask nicely for help and nobody says anything for like 3 days. I talk shit and I got a million people on here. So talking shit > being civil. And im not trying to win any bees here. I really dont care if anyone here likes me or not. I have no ego, I dont care if people think I am imature or not. I speak my mind. Sometimes negative thoughts are on my mind and thats how they come out.
When someone sells me seeds for 60$ for 5 of them. And they go hermi, I ask about it and get no kind of explanations. Hm......