PLEASE HELP!! wk 6 look like they are dying

Hey guys. Can't figure this out, tried Epsom salt at 1tbsp and it seemed to help for a day or two, or they just didn't get worse.

Not sure what's going wrong but hoping I can catch it and fix it right away before I lose them all. Very saddening. Haha

PLEASE HELLLPPP!!!
Week 6.
Water ph 6.5
Buddha grow 10ml (tapering down)
Buddha bloom 25ml (started smaller dose week 5)


Fed them last night And now today the look like this. Before it was just yellow bottom leaves but now this.... Too much Buddha bloom????

5 NL autos in root organic soil
Under g8led 450watt and mars 2 700watt and 90w all red ufo

flush flush, thats too much salt, half a teaspoon is the supplemented amount per gallon

Plant looks very Nitrogen deficient and over watered. That would be the first things I would be treating.

ficklejester said:

Scoop out some dirt and look at the roots. Take a pic and report back. You can only speculate looking at leaves.

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Thanks for the laugh!

Roots nutrients are raw and are best when used with a living soil. They only have a tiny bit of water soluble N. They are not fast acting, they have to be broken down by the soil microbes, which in turn feed your plants. Are you dechlorinating your water? If not you might as well be feeding them nothing as your wiping out your microbes, no microbes equals dead plants. You might want to consider switching to a mineral salt based nutrient like Dyna Gro.

workinit said:

Roots nutrients are raw and are best when used with a living soil. They only have a tiny bit of water soluble N. They are not fast acting, they have to be broken down by the soil microbes, which in turn feed your plants. Are you dechlorinating your water? If not you might as well be feeding them nothing as your wiping out your microbes, no microbes equals dead plants. You might want to consider switching to a mineral salt based nutrient like Dyna Gro.

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my water is distilled water bought from the store ph'd every time before i pour it. i am thinking too many BLOOM nutes for a plant that was behind and was barely flowering. or barely even pre flowering...

could too many bloom nutrients kill the plant like that if it were behind? bc the only two showing any NEGATIVE signs from the feeding are the two that were bushier but not flowering much at all yet.???

here is yesterday. these are the two that are flowering more and are yellow. they arent burn and brown spotted so much like the two that arent flowering much. i fed them all the same amount the last feeding and i figured with higher nitrogen bc still using a small amount of grow (buddha grow) nutes, and then i upped my bloom nutes 25ml of buddha bloom and the flowering plants stayed yellow and the other two turned brown n spotted and seem to be dying as of today.

i flushed them all as stated before, so i will wait a few days and hopefully they improve as they dry out and then get a little water again.

i didnt flush the flowering plants that were yellow i figured thats not enough nitrogen so i just left them to dry out for now.

any ideas on the next step after letting them dry out? i want to be proactive if possible so it doesnt worsen.

thanks guys.

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Hey guys. Can't figure this out, tried Epsom salt at 1tbsp and it seemed to help for a day or two, or they just didn't get worse.

Not sure what's going wrong but hoping I can catch it and fix it right away before I lose them all. Very saddening. Haha

PLEASE HELLLPPP!!!
Week 6.
Water ph 6.5
Buddha grow 10ml (tapering down)
Buddha bloom 25ml (started smaller dose week 5)


Fed them last night And now today the look like this. Before it was just yellow bottom leaves but now this.... Too much Buddha bloom????

5 NL autos in root organic soil
Under g8led 450watt and mars 2 700watt and 90w all red ufo

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I am an ordained minister and I have performed Last Rites for your plants. There will be happier in their next life.

CC Dobbs said:

I am an ordained minister and I have performed Last Rites for your plants. There will be happier in their next life.

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haha really?? thanks for your help.

Man skip the bloom nutes and all that shit. Give it a balanced feed, they need nitrogen throughout the whole life of the plant. Yellow leaves are non productive leaves. When they are in flower yes you should cut back on the nitrogen a little but not completely. Your plant looks hungry to me.

Flushing is also a bad idea in my opinion. Its already stressed from overwatering and lack of proper nutrition. Flushing would really put it through the ringer, and being autos they wont have time to recover if your already at 6 weeks.

Cpappa27 said:

Flushing is also a bad idea in my opinion. Its already stressed from overwatering and lack of proper nutrition. Flushing would really put it through the ringer, and being autos they wont have time to recover if your already at 6 weeks.

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ok well too late now. i just try to follow the opinions on here that seem pretty good. i tried flushing two days ago and we will see how they look later today...

what is your suggestion? dont flush and let dry out, but then what would you do if you were in this situation?

Alexander Supertramp said:

Thanks for the laugh!

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You mean he was kidding?

ficklejester said:

Keep speculating and speculating until they die.

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any decent reply or ideas on what you would do in this situation? or just that very helpful comment? thanks for reading about my sick plants and for your help.

ficklejester said:

I already told you what to do, you fucking slag.

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haha really? i see your a keyboard tough guy. figures. does it make u feel tough to curse at someone bc your provided some bullshit stupid ass comment on my thread?

take ur sorry keyboard titan tough guy ass and go post on someone elses thread. u scum bag. comment stupid shit on mine bc ur behind a computer screen. everyone else seems to be nice and not being a douchebag, but u obviously are some fucking sorry ass pussy stoner cunt who gets his jollys on being tough on a forum.

take care scum bag. hope anything u do with grows blows up in ur face and fails. karmas a bitch..


thanks to everyone else on here that isnt a complete shit head and feels the need for stupid comments. forums are for help, research and fun chattting and some of us with half a brain no that and others with a small man complex need to be a tough guy, hope it makes u feel bigger bc u need it.

I think you were on the right track with the salts, as it probably is one of your problems but it sounds like too much, too late. It looks like it could be a mag deficiency (did you use a cal/mag supplement?) I would really like to know the PH of your soil, as that is my bet. Did you add any lime to your soil? There are a couple of things I would recommend you having for long term growing. PH meter you have, a TDS/EC meter for really knowing how much food you are giving them and a soil test kit so you really know what is up with your soil, no guesswork. At this point all I would do is flush the shit out of them, which you did, and don't feed them anything for the remaining 3 weeks or so of their lives.

Jimdamick said:

I think you were on the right track with the salts, as it probably is one of your problems but it sounds like too much, too late. It looks like it could be a mag deficiency (did you use a cal/mag supplement?) I would really like to know the PH of your soil, as that is my bet. Did you add any lime to your soil? There are a couple of things I would recommend you having for long term growing. PH meter you have, a TDS/EC meter for really knowing how much food you are giving them and a soil test kit so you really know what is up with your soil, no guesswork. At this point all I would do is flush the shit out of them, which you did, and don't feed them anything for the remaining 3 weeks or so of their lives.

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ok thanks allot. i have not given them cal-mag. can i ge tthat from a local home depot? if not ill order offline. i have been ph'ing my water and i have tested my soil run off and did the equation to figure out the soil PH....

ph going in is 6.5 or so... ph of soil run off is 5.6-5.8... difference is .8-.9ph... add .8 to 5.6 run off and i am getting 6.4-6.6 ph of soil...

equation i found i was using is...

ph of water going in - ph of run off soil and then. then Add the difference between the two to the soil run off of 5.6.

so 6.5 (going in) - 5.6 = .9 (difference)
take .9 + 5.6(ph run off) and get approx 6.5ph.

havent added anything to my soil other then the nutes buddha grow and bloom.

is there anything i should do besides dry out n then slowly water again??? anythin gi should add to make the flowering plants more green not yellow?

the two less flowerign that are brown spotted ill certianly just leave alone bc thats prob just over nutes.

but i didnt know if i should bring nitrogen up somehow in the two flowering plants.


thanks again guys.

ficklejester said:

So did you look at the roots?

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i saw you post about diggin up the roots. i dug down about 4 inches or so BEFORE i saw someone ask if u were NUTS??

wha ti had found that the roots were whitish with maybe a little tint of tan to them (think it was the dirt). idk if thats good but they looked very healthy and seemed strong....

i DID NOT dig down to the lower portion of the roots though jsut where there were alot of smaller thinner ones all over the place.

25 ml of bloom per gallon of water? I use roots organic line and roots soil but I never use over 5-7 ml of it per gallon it doesn't take much I'm getting good results from it

Using roots. But I use the whole lineup dry nutes and all