please help why are my leaves curing down n turnig a dark green (PICS)!!!!!

i sure did if i never took her out and did a transplant i would of never known about what i posted, she would of died or give me more issues also my last watering i did before i had a ph kit i used a fish tank ph test strip which i think didnt help me get a accurate reading on my PH,also the fact her roots where not goin outward n just being in the same spot,

i just hope now that i can ph my water and her rootball is more "flexable n out" that this helps her out

Thanks for all the help once again i just dont like getting wrongful infomation or being misunderstood/mislead
i will keep you all updated on this thread on how she recovers if im doing whats right with all this HELP

mountainboy said:

OMG! let me go get my boots on,here cones the bullshit train! If there was one more horticultural pro on this site we could start a university. You must have got your degree online man. Cause you dont know shit! here are my top three reasons I know your blowing smoke.
1. water often and lightly------anyone who has any experience knows this is the complete opposite of what should be done. You almost got it right when you spoke of a wet/dry cycle. But the practice of often and light contradicts a wet dry cycle.

2. Let the plant dry out,let the plant and leaves wilt..... Are you kidding me? never induce stress on a plant. It has no benefit at all and can only cause problems. When a plant wilts the cell walls have collapsed,temp as that may be it is still stress.

3. You said your a horticultural pro.

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Yep. And what was it you said? You've forgotten more than I'll ever know? Wasn't that it? Listen, I don't give a flying fuck what you think or don't think. My advice to Rebs was for his situation - he needs to learn the difference between looking after a plant and drowning the fucker. All you're doing is telling him crap and confusing him - what was your diagnosis again? Let's have a look back - oh yeah it was nutrient lock out because of ph issues - IS THAT RIGHT? NO, it fuckin ain't. You must know a lot more than I do, you expert you. He over watered his plant almost to death - he's taken the thing out, re-potted it, taken it out and repotted it again - that's really going to help matters, isn't it? Anyway, there's no helping some people - you just stick with this guy Rebs - you just go check your 'ph lock-out' problem good ole Mountainboy tells ya you got. Fuck me

rebs420 said:

finally someone whos helped me out since Page one, not saying anyone eles hasnt cause they have but mountain seems he more experienced bout growing and on the forums,

but Dude mountain should i water her mabe 2marro cause the soil is drying up pretty fast and i aint waiting a fuckin week to damn water her im sorry call me stupid or what ever but if the soil is Damn near dry i should water by sunday if not monday right? also the pot does feel lighter and when i did the transplant the soil wasnt all that Moist, it was moist just like how you get soil right out of the bag and i dont wanna have to Dry out the roots to the point it dies completely. ive also read other users who had the same issue like mine and waterered there plant after a transplant and it seems to help during the shocking of it,

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Yeah mate - you just keep on watering - every day - until water runs out the bottom - that'll sort out your ph lock-out problem - fuck me - it's the blind leading the blind - what a waste of time

Hey Munta Boy - I've just been looking through some of the great advice you've been giving this guy - here's a little taster:

Your first effort on page 1 - right after someone sensible said: It looks like overwatering to me -

You say all these things:

I suggest you water it until you have good run off,and then check the ph of that run off. (yeah, that'll help an overwatered plant, won't it)

you can leave or remove the leaves,it doesent matter once they have damage they dont recover - really? taking off slightly damaged leaves 'doesn't matter', eh? Fuck, why not just take all the leaves off if it doesn't matter?

You just carry right on on page 2 with this gem: he is looking at a ph or lockout problem - oh, yeah?

Then you tell him to go spend 100 bucks on a ph/ec meter and say: now b4 you say your all set and leave us. Do you know how to get your ph back in range - man, you're on a roll now

Then there's this beauty: dont want to come off as a dick - huh?

if you want to grow.You have to have the meters.I know there pricey,but with out them your not able to diagnose or fix problems. You don't need a tool to diagnose overwatering - maybe you do

Guessing when trying to fix something always leads to more problems and dead plants. You got that right - so maybe you should stop guessing, you ain't that good at it, clearly

Then someone else with a brain said: I also think it could also be wet feet. Can cause symptoms of N overdose because unchelated nitrogen stays available as long as the soil is wet. Maybe let it dry a little longer? Your soil could be more compact and wet than you want - very next post I joined in and agreed, but you don't want to listen to that - no, you know better...you then have a bitch about someone else asking a question and then come out with this to argue with me about the fact that he's drowning his plant....

It wasn't an over watering issue for the original poster . He is having a Ph & lock out issue - really? IS THAT RIGHT??

You've advised someone to water the fuck out of a saturated, drowning plant; to go spend 100 bucks on shit he doesn't need; to remove very slightly damaged leaves because 'it doesn't matter' - that's a particularly good one....And so it goes on - I'd just stfu if I was you

Please BOTH of you stop bitchin back n foruth i didnt come on this forum for that, jackmac if you dont give a flying fuck what he says you wouldn't of posted what you said, so please jus be quite now dont need to say anything eles then what you already said, now please jus STOP i dont want aruging back n foruth i dont so both of you do me a favor n stop the next post should do somthing bout my plant n not some one eles advice please i dont wanna hear it so drop it.

rebs420 said:

Please BOTH of you stop bitchin back n foruth i didnt come on this forum for that, jackmac if you dont give a flying fuck what he says you wouldn't of posted what you said, so please jus be quite now dont need to say anything eles then what you already said, now please jus STOP i dont want aruging back n foruth i dont so both of you do me a favor n stop the next post should do somthing bout my plant n not some one eles advice please i dont wanna hear it so drop it.

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You're right. I apologise. That's not what you came here for. I apologise to you too, MB. No-one likes being called a liar though. Ok. That's that, I hope.

Listen up Rebs, I'm just trying to help - obviously!!! I know MB is trying to help as well, but we disagree about what the problem is. Guess that means it's up to you to decide the best thing to do next - you've got a whole lot of posts to look back at - loads of advice - what you gonna do?

Good Luck!

Cheers

Thanks man and i kno your tryn to help me out n i thnk everyone whos took the time to help a fellow stoner out, im not favoring sides man any advice i get ima follow but i dont like people agruing back n fourth we all love n like the same thing n every ones advice is gunna be diffrent n not everyones right ya kno so no need for me to liste to one n not the other.

We don't argue just because we don't have better things to do, but because misinformation given to a newb that doesn't know to take ALL suggestions into consideration when making his decision about what to do can be very detrimental to their plants, and confidence in this site.

Wow what is rollitup coming to?? All this to help someone? New growers that come in and don't know shit need to be told to do a lot more reading and watching on mj. Ppl that don't want to learn can't be taught.

bigrake said:

Wow what is rollitup coming to?? All this to help someone? New growers that come in and don't know shit need to be told to do a lot more reading and watching on mj. Ppl that don't want to learn can't be taught.

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I'm almost at the point I don't say anything anymore............
Whenever I see a thread starting out 'what do I need to do to start some seeds?' and I reply "Read, read, read some more BEFORE you even plant seeds", then a fucking train comes behind me, and says 'get this, get that, do this, do that', those are the OP's that are going to be back every day asking 'I don't know why my plant is dying, it's 9 days old, and I water and feed it every day.'

Bakatare666 said:

I'm almost at the point I don't say anything anymore............
Whenever I see a thread starting out 'what do I need to do to start some seeds?' and I reply "Read, read, read some more BEFORE you even plant seeds", then a fucking train comes behind me, and says 'get this, get that, do this, do that', those are the OP's that are going to be back every day asking 'I don't know why my plant is dying, it's 9 days old, and I water and feed it every day.'

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Amen to both of you guys!

I'm not back to argue. I do have to defend myself though. I have pm'ed the Reb and he knows and I know that he was not over watering. If watering every two weeks on a 2-3 foot plant is to much my mothers would all be dead. I only wish reb had two plants exhibiting the same problems,then he could try both suggestions and come back and tell us which one resolved his problems.

I do have to say one thing,as Jacmac listed (his opinions on my suggestions) The most backward advise given on this thread was by you. You said water lightly&often. Its not my opinion that this is bad advise its a fact. You spoke of a wet dry cycle,but yet seem to know nothing about what it means. I have so much more to say,but because the opp has asked us not to argue in his thread,I invite you to PM me if you would like to debate this further.Don't be shy,You just may learn something.

Reb just wanted to let you know..Jacmac has been exposed, he's a troll!

That's right. Yes. I live under a bridge with my beard and dispense horticultural tips - like any good troll should

If you pat attention a lot of the ppl are newb giving the advice they have one block. I only give advice if I've had the same issue or know what to do. All the newbies are helping each other kill there plants. Lol

mountainboy said:

Hey man I sent you a step by step. Check your mail. If what I told you doesent work I'll eat the dirt your growing in...lol

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All gone a bit quiet....How's it going Rebs? How big was that pot again? 5 gallon wasn't it?

jackmac dude please leave my post alone, from what i read on other posts you seem like a troll. im not gunna take any more advice from you, you just like stiring shit in the pot even more with your smart ass remarks please buzz off, your the last person ill take advice from and i aint the only person on these forums who says other wise!